Archicad fills layout unmanageable

[cocoloco]

Hi!

I will try my best to explain the issue with fills I have. 

We add fills on top of elevations, for tiles it’s important that the fills (tile size) is layer out logically.  By logically I mean that if I have space 24x12, and I use tile that is 24x12, that it will use for that space only one tile instead of two.

so far I tried all different “layout options” from the archicad selection but neither one would fit the tile in the space that is designed for the tile. It’s important for us for the tile to be well layed out so the trades understand it, they would not guess it’s random and would make mistakes.

if the fills aren’t working like this we would have to do all of this manually, and then I could as well just use sketchup for free .. 

does anyone have solution for this? 

 in photo attached the tile is as mentioned 12x24” and the width for the space is 24”, so why it doesn’t show just one tile?? (Layout setting/spread doesn’t help)

[Nathan Hildebrandt]

By modelling everything I can label and schedule everything in the model. It also means that all of my documents are created automatically from the model and I use associated labels on everything. So if I change the attribute all of the labels will update automatically and so do all of my schedules and legends.

It also enables the ability for measurement and quantification directly from the model. And visualisation in BIMx and imagery and VR in Enscape is what it will look like when it is built. Quite easy to model to be honest with you, when you have a good system in place.

[Barry Kelly]

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@cocoloco wrote:

YOU ARE MODELING WALL AND FLOOR FINISHES???????? 😭

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There is an old saying for 3D BIM software such as Archicad.

"Model it as it is built".

Follow that and you can't go wrong.

A fill or lines for tiles on a wall may look OK, but you can't schedule them or see them in 3D.

I personally use objects that have the tiling built in (these may not be available in the default library - I create my own objects).

Once modelled in 3D, I have it done for every section and elevation automatically with no extra work.

No extra line work what so ever.

Barry.

[cocoloco]

Hi everyone. I am here a few years back as this issue is unresolved 😞 .. I still have the same issue, can't scale Finishes (lay it out) to where I start. I tried all the settings proposed. I am not clearly sure why there are 3 different settings for fill construction method BUT NONE to start at the wall/or where I start drawing. I mean...:D  

This is all I have tried based on suggestions above:

1. turn off "fill handles" in onscreen options 

2. chose "cut fill" instead of cover in fill setting 

3. chosen "fill to origin"

4. chosen "scaled with plan" 

 

and nothing had happened.... 

Could someone help please? 

 

[Barry Kelly · Accepted solution]

You can use the fill handle to reposition the hatch pattern and also rotate it.

The construction method with 2 handles allows you to also stretch the lengths and distort the angle of the hatch.

1000mm long handle equals one hatch unit size, 2000mm long equals 2x unit size

Barry.

[cocoloco]

This worked!! Thank you!