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Complex Profile

Hudson
Contributor

Hi, 

Is there anyway to hide a part of a complex profile? In plan I want to dimension just the core of Finish, however I have a flashing that caps the top of the wall that I don't want to dimension too. 

 

Archicad 24

Duncan

 

Operating system used: Mac Intel-based Monteray

Archicad 24, Rhino 3d 8, 3dsmax 2024 and Corona
Work: Gerard Smith Design
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Barry Kelly
Moderator

Each fill (building material) you use in the complex profile can be set as 'Core' , 'Finish' or 'Other'.

Then in any view you can choose the Partial Structure Display to show what the finish or other skins.

The core will always be visible.

 

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Note: you have to place separate dimensions for each Partial Structure Display if you want to see different parts in different views of the same view point.

The dimensions are unique fir each Partial Structure Display.

 

Barry.

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Yeah I don't think that works for what I need, that turns the finishes off for everything. 

In floor plan I am above the these short wall/parapets that have the flashing and I just want to dimension to the core or finishes, not the flashing. 

 

Thanks for taking a look

Archicad 24, Rhino 3d 8, 3dsmax 2024 and Corona
Work: Gerard Smith Design
mgg
Booster

Does it help to place hotspots at the spots you want to dimension inside the profile manager?

AC 26-28 GER
Windows 11 // i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz // NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
Erwin Edel
Rockstar

You should be able to dimension to hotspots you placed in the complex profile in sections/elevations as pointed out by mgg.

 

For floorplan your dimension will use the width of the complex profile at the floor plan cut plane.

 

If the floor plan is the issue, you are better off modelling the finish seperately. Ussually with BIM projects you would need different classifications for the wall and the finish, so this might be necessary down the line either way.

Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

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Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
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gpowless
Advocate

Best wat to achieve this is using renovation settings. Set this by selecting the flashing in profile manager and change the renovation element to "demolished". To dimension  the wall, change the renovation filter to "existing". If you need to see the flashing as in wall sections or 3d projection you simply set the renovation filter to "show all". It is important to note that if you place any construction material in a complex profile outside of the finish faces, when you use automatically dimension walls and slabs setting in your dimension settings, it will select the outermost material identified as a "finish". This is important for floor plan dimensioning in that even if the material is 1/128" (0.198mm) outside of the main wall it is nearly impossible to chase down an accumulative dimension error that will occur.

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A suggestion for "clean" modelling is separating elements.

In cases like this we use a separate profile just for the top covering.
More elements to model but better to filter or evaluate.

AC 6,5 - 28 | GER WIN | i7-9700K | RTX 3070 | 64GB

Yep this is what I have done, but its annoying to have so many parts, having different layers for intersection dramas, then if something gets moved, I have to remember to move the flashing too.  I love to have a linking system, so i link the flashing to the wall.

Archicad 24, Rhino 3d 8, 3dsmax 2024 and Corona
Work: Gerard Smith Design

@Hudson wrote:

I love to have a linking system, so i link the flashing to the wall.


You can group them.

It is not perfect, but so long as grouping is not suspended, they will move together even if a layer is turned off.

 

Barry.

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kmitotk
Expert

How about lowering the horizontal cut line of the plan view to a height below the coping? You'll be able to dimension the wall below. 

Kei Mito

Architect | Graphisoft Certified BIM Manager
ArchiCAD 29 JPN/USA/INT | Windows 11

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