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Curved wall following polyline

kaltra
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Hey! I want to model this curved wall in 3D, but as far as I understood I cannot do this using the Curved Wall tool directly because that only creates curves that have a certain radius, so that are part of a circle. I also tried to play around with adding points to the curve but it was still difficult to get a shape that matches this curve. 


-> My first question is if anyone knows a way to create this curved wall in an easier way and if it is possible to show it as one single wall?

 

->If not, then I already modeled it using the poly geometry method but now the thing is that it shows fragmented, which has two problems: 1) I have to group the walls together so that when i click on it it selects the whole thing; 2) if the grouping is the only method that works in this case, is it possible at least that the lines in the 3D view do not show? 

 

I'd appreciate any tips and tricks on this topic! 🙂

 

Operating system used: Windows

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runxel
Hero

How did you model the wall in the first place?

Have you tried the magic wand? You can fiddle with its settings to gain a possible better result.

 

In the end a wall in AC can only have one radius, except for the polywall, but that has other drawbacks.

I always recommend to ask oneself how it would be done on site anyway. You can't build splines so you always have to abstract that away into arcs as the first step. But even arcs are tricky to get right. And they are very costly.

So next step is to try and make less arcs. I'm sure you can get away with just 3 arc-walls here with little deviation to the spline.

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Steve Jepson
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What are the materials the wall will be constructed with? 

https://www.clarkdietrich.com/products/360trak

https://www.strongtie.com/products/go/connectors/ready-products

https://www.radiustrack.com/

https://www.scafco.com/steel/products/perfect-curve-curved-products/ 

There are methods to shape the wall plates on site too.  

It's important to understand the limits for smoothness of the curves and such so you don't model something that can't be constructed well with the products that will be used. 

 

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Archicad curved walls (left) are circular walls, so with arcs (circular; constant curvature) you shouldn't be getting any segment lines. 

Now when magic wanding splines that variable curvature is approximated by placing nodes along the spline (middle) (criteria for segment length/deviation from curve set in magic wand settings) and throwing arcs in between –so the arcs are not tangential at the nodes, and those are the vertical lines lines you see. For the lines not to show, the arcs need to be tangential at the nodes (right) (their radii at the node need to be along the same line, like juxtaposing slices from small and large pizzas keeping their rims aligned), which right now AC can't figure out by itself so requires producing the approximation in Grasshopper or throwing the geometry manually. 

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cuba
Advisor

It is possible to make it with one wall:

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use the last geometry method:

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Draw some splines and use the magic wand to fill it with a wall.  The curved wall will be in one piece

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