Directing 3D Elements to a Story

[Anonymous]

Hi,
When drawing in 3D; is there a way of locating an element in a certain story? Every element that I draw in 3D automatically goes to 1st floor. Even slabs that have the option of CURRENT STORY are placed at 1st story when the plan window is at 2nd story. If this is the way it works, so how every one else draws in 3D?
Thanks,
Joseph Harouni

[Anonymous]

The elements will be drawn on the story that is currently active in the plan window. I would like to see something better than this (in addition to my posted wish for an element's home story to display in the info palette and settings dialog). Perhaps a "working story" indicator that could be displayed and moved in the 3D window would do the trick.

[Djordje]

Matthew wrote:
The elements will be drawn on the story that is currently active in the plan window. I would like to see something better than this (in addition to my posted wish for an element's home story to display in the info palette and settings dialog). Perhaps a "working story" indicator that could be displayed and moved in the 3D window would do the trick.

... and it could be as easy as moving the user origin ... UCS, anybody?

[Anonymous]

Matthew wrote:
The elements will be drawn on the story that is currently active in the plan window.

Matthew,
How, where, what Even though in plan my project map is set to Second Story and I do see the Second story in plan when I go to 3D window and draw a wall, it goes to First story when I go back to plan, and not to Second story! Am I missing any setting?
Thanks,
Joseph

[Anonymous]

Djordje wrote:

Joseph wrote:
When drawing in 3D; is there a way of locating an element in a certain story?

Place the origin at that storey.

I didn't know that. I'll have to check it out. Thanks, Djordje.

Yes, it works! (Not that I doubted you, I just had to see it myself.) How long has it been this way?

[Djordje]

Matthew wrote:

Djordje wrote:

Joseph wrote:
When drawing in 3D; is there a way of locating an element in a certain story?

Place the origin at that storey.

I didn't know that. I'll have to check it out. Thanks, Djordje.

Yes, it works! (Not that I doubted you, I just had to see it myself.) How long has it been this way?

If you take a better look, I deleted the message. But you managed to respond 😉 Why did I delete it? Because it does NOT work the way Joseph wants.

It DOES place the elements at the correct elevation, but it DOES NOT place them on the correct storey, and they are shown on the storey active in the plan window, and belong to that storey. IMHO confusing.

However, I could swear that it worked that way once upon a time or in a ... hm ... unfinished version.

Thomas is not the only one with Alzheimer looming 😉

[Anonymous]

Djordje wrote:
It DOES place the elements at the correct elevation, but it DOES NOT place them on the correct storey, and they are shown on the storey active in the plan window, and belong to that storey. IMHO confusing.
However, I could swear that it worked that way once upon a time or in a ... hm ... unfinished version.

Matthew and Djordje I am totally confused by now?!
These are the steps I am taking:
1. First I have to at least draw one element at each story (we can not start to draw in 3D no matter in what story is your plan window, correct?)
2. While in plan of desired story, in 3D place the User Origin at bottom node of a wall and beam or top node of slab of the element on the desired story and start drawing.
Is the correct and only way?
Any alternative to changing the story from with in 3D window, without going back and forth between plan and 3D?
By the way,

Djordje wrote:
and it could be as easy as moving the user origin ... UCS, anybody

what is UCS?
Thanks,
Joseph

[Djordje]

Joseph wrote:
Matthew and Djordje I am totally confused by now?!
These are the steps I am taking:
1. First I have to at least draw one element at each story (we can not start to draw in 3D no matter in what story is your plan window, correct?)
2. While in plan of desired story, in 3D place the User Origin at bottom node of a wall and beam or top node of slab of the element on the desired story and start drawing.
Is the correct and only way?

Yep, you got it. To be completely correct, place the origin at the zero level of the current storey. The elements will be created on the proper level and the storey that is active in the 2D window.

Joseph wrote:
Any alternative to changing the story from with in 3D window, without going back and forth between plan and 3D?

Regretfully no; which is not consistent, as the 2D plan window knows the storey AND the elevation, while the 3D window know only about elevation. AFAIK!

Joseph wrote:
what is UCS?

AutoCAD speak for User Coordinate System. In AutoCAD, you can specify it by clicking at any three coplanar points in space, and then it defines the spatial plane you are working in, with the current Z perpendicular to it. I unlearned it in the last ... hm ... years.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Seems to me that AC - based on Story Height data given in story Settings - will decide to which Story the level of your current Local Origin belongs. Then it will draw the element created in 3D at that level and on that Story. Looks completely logical to me.
Laszlo

[Anonymous]

laszlonagy wrote:
Seems to me that AC - based on Story Height data given in story Settings - will decide to which Story the level of your current Local Origin belongs. Then it will draw the element created in 3D at that level and on that Story. Looks completely logical to me.
Laszlo

Verified (as if Laszlo needs verifying)

...works well over here...completely logical.