Empty Fill vs. Air Space vs. and Solid vs. Marker Fill?
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2005-05-24 07:19 PM
What is the DISTINCTION and the USEAGE of:
1. Empty Fill vs. Air Space Fill?
2. Solid Fill vs. Marker Fill?
Thanks,
Joseph

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2005-09-27 10:56 PM
One way to prevent these fills would be to stop using it!

There may also be a setting where you can change these fills within the add on, to fills that you would rather use. I don't know for sure, as I don't have it.
Cheers,
Link.

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2005-09-28 11:05 AM
Old topic, I know, but where can I get to the fills and really delete them. I have deleted them from Attributes Manager, from fills dialogue, they still come back when I re-open the file. Its Frame Fill 1, Frame Fill 2, Trim Fill, Leaf Fill. I'm assuming they are from window builder or some such thing but I want to clean them out and assign standard fills them. Any help?If they are recreated they might come from Master_GDLxxxxx.gdl files found in one of your Libraries. You would have to edit these out of those files, then you would have to modify the library parts in those libraries to reference fills other than those defined in these Master_GDLxxxxx.gdl files, and save them so new instances will use those defaults. This will probably not affect already placed instances of these library parts.
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2007-12-29 10:09 PM
Karl wrote:It's now Dec 2007, two years later.
A number of us have had a wish in to GS to produce a document that lists all fills used by all library parts/modules/templates along with the index numbers used in those objects so that we have a crystal clear picture of what havoc we might create before deleting/renumbering any of them. I'm hopeful that we might see that document some time by the end of the year.
Karl
Has GS provided this tool that Karl mentions back in 2005?
I'd like the ability to delete redundant Fills without creating havoc.
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2007-12-29 10:49 PM
Doug

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2007-12-29 11:36 PM
4thorns wrote:Avoid doing it that way if possible. The resulting object will have many more polygons, as you've created a true air gap, resulting in new surfaces. It really is better to create duplicate fills to obtain the linework in section, and yet keep your complex (profiled) elements' polygon count low
I like the complex profile in AC11 but I have to separate like fills by a small fraction of an inch to get them to separate in sections.
Cheers,
Karl
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2007-12-29 11:51 PM

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2007-12-30 12:04 AM
4thorns wrote:It's essentially the same as what we explained to you here!
Forgive my ignorance Karl, I'm still new to complex profiles and I've never duplicated a fill before. are you saying that a duplicate fill, renamed, will not "clean up" to it's original counterpart, leaving the separation lines? If this is the case then it makes things a little easier.


Cheers,
Link.
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2007-12-30 12:58 AM
Karl wroteIf I'm missing something....Sorry
It really is better to create duplicate fills to obtain the linework in section
Doug

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2007-12-30 01:25 AM
4thorns wrote:Yes, Link gave a perfect screenshot in that other thread of how to get a wall plate to show up with linework in section, and yet not generate any additional polygons. Because 'empty fill' and 'air space' look the same, but have different names, you get lines showing where they touch.
I've never duplicated a fill before. are you saying that a duplicate fill, renamed, will not "clean up" to it's original counterpart, leaving the separation lines? If this is the case then it makes things a little easier.
ArchiCAD is not smart enough to realize that any fills have the same content, only that they have the same name (or index number).
So, if you want a line to show between a stem wall and a footing that are modeled in a profile, and you want the structural concrete fill to be used for both, you have to duplicate the fill.
The attached screenshot shows that when you click 'new' in the fill types dialog (Options > Element Attributes > ...), the default thing is to duplicate the currently selected fill. That's all that's involved. It is a very important thing to know, since often you'll want to duplicate a fill and change its spacing (scale) for other purposes...
The same thing (create identical duplicate) has to be done if, for example, you have a stucco fill on the exterior walls (via material) and actually want a line to appear between one color of stucco and another. The fill name must differ, otherwise in elevation, the fills will just clean up without a line. It's been this way as long as I've used ArchiCAD (version 6.5), no doubt much longer.
Cheers,
Karl
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2007-12-30 01:27 AM
4thorns wrote:Doug, not missing anything. This is what I've done
/......If I'm missing something....Sorry
when I want just an empty fill and not a vectorial hatch.
All Empty Fills renamed to reflect the element in question.
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