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MSA object in 11

Anonymous
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It there a way of using MSA library 9 in 11
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Karl Ottenstein
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Adalbert wrote:
It there a way of using MSA library 9 in 11
Can you clarify? All of the 'MSA' parts were renamed 'DET' in the SE9 library ... and still exist in the 11 library. Is there a problem with using those, or is it that you have an old project from 9 that you're trying to use in 11?

By the way - Virtual Trace in 11 offers a much-improved way of using the MSA/DET 'templates'. Instead of placing the templates on special hidden layers, simply place the template in an unlinked Detail or Worksheet and use it as the trace reference....

Cheers,
Karl
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AC 28 USA and earlier   •   macOS Sequoia 15.2, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB
Anonymous
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Thanks Karl for answering,

I have hundreds of details with MSA lib parts dating back from older versions. I am not able to load the old MSA library in 11 to make these details read.

I then have old projects that I try using as base for new projects, TI tape of work.
Karl Ottenstein
Moderator
Hi Albert,

If you save the old project(s) with details as PLA and open that in 11, extracting the PLA lib and then weeding it to just the MSA stuff so that you can load it alongside 11's lib ... do you get lib loading errors? I assume that must be the issue?

Cheers,
Karl
One of the forum moderators
AC 28 USA and earlier   •   macOS Sequoia 15.2, MacBook Pro M2 Max 12CPU/30GPU cores, 32GB
Anonymous
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I did just that loaded the unpacked MSA in 11. This does not load the library items.

We have here a major problem.

When I purchased AC on 1989 my only question was "will these library items work for the future". I was assured that they will work as long as GS or AC exists. Well this is not the case and this is the Achilles’ heel.

I do not have a solution
Anonymous
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So there is no solution MSA library does not work with 11 .....I feel violated
FWIW, I don't have any trouble in 11 loading the extracted MSA folder from the old 9 pla. Though I don't have old details to test.

My problem with old projects is finding the parts. Once found, I don't think I've ever observed a part that permanently failed to load, or failed to work once loaded. The MSAs are just 2D symbols, nothing exotic. Except: The steel shapes need a text file that used to go in the AC folder but now I think it can be in a loaded library.

Maybe you could zip and upload an old detail and we could see if the problem is reproducible.
James Murray

Archicad 27 • Rill Architects • macOS • OnLand.info
Anonymous
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MSA from 9 does not load in 11 at least for me. Are you sure that you can load it.
The details have been made in 7 and 9.
I want to use the MSA that came with 9 in 11.
I extracted the whole thing and successfully loaded the MSA by itself. I had no trouble with anything but the steel; when I put the external txt in the library it was fine too. OS X 10.4.10, PPC, AC11 1040.
James Murray

Archicad 27 • Rill Architects • macOS • OnLand.info
Anonymous
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James Tanks

You confirms my problem that the steel does not work. The details I needed when I posted the coment are loaded with steel elements.

In my opinion GS should not be allowed to play this game, it has to be a commitment: ALL THE OLD LIBRARIES PROPAGATED WITH THE PROGRAM BY GS MUST WORK WITH NEW VERSIONS.