Modify Wall in 9?

[Thomas Holm]

I give up. Deadline approaching, I'm tired, i can't find AC7's Tools > Modify Wall command in AC9. It's the one where you could move a wall's reference line without moving the wall. Where the f..k is it? (and I'm probably an idiot too)

[Eduardo Rolon]

At least you have the expert option. In the US version you can choose between:
Standard 9
US Basic User Preference Scheme 9
US Standard User Preference Scheme 9

And do not get me started on the layers. There is no "lines" layers with those schemes but there is "A-NPLT". Layers should be simple and there is a reason why a lot of people have their particular settings instead of adopting the US Global CAD settings. What I teach my students is that the layer scheme they use has to comply with the following condition: To be simple and logical enough that if another person uses your drawing he can figure it out.
The A-NPLT name is based on AutoCAD's old 8.3 limit naming scheme. Anyway now I have to spend some time tweaking AC again.

[Thomas Holm]

Eduardo,

here in Sweden we have a so-called standard called Point. It's name is based on the most wide-spread Autocad application, which largely still is based on the old Autocad 12-14. Multitudes of layers, all with incromprehensible eight-character names, with POSITION-BASED coding on top, like this:
A-----E-
A-37-EA-
A-45B---
A-46---B
And they're all BYLAYER on top of that. And furthermore, a lot of public institutions, authorities etc have the good taste of breaking their own laws by requiring architects to deliver all files in "Point-compliant" format.

This of course requires Autocad. Their resellers have had a lot of people travelling around the country to talk them into that. Now, it becomes embarrassing for them, because architects using ADT or Revit can't deliver that either.

Still it's fucking shit in my opinion. So don't complain. I think US Global CAD is a mild mediterranean evening breeze compared to this 😉

[Djordje]

ejrolon wrote:
Welcome to the club, I have spent more time in the past few days tweaking AC than working in projects.

I would advise to start from the Expert (or whatever is the highest level) WE and tweak AS you find something missing, then save as Custom.

Never forget to save it out!

Yes, initially it will take a bit of time ...

[Eduardo Rolon]

I am not criticizing but my feeling is that by the timewhen I finally get AC09 WE running as perfect as I want them ACX or AC11 will have come out and I would have to start again.

[__archiben]

ejrolon wrote:
I am not criticizing but my feeling is that by the timewhen I finally get AC09 WE running as perfect as I want them ACX or AC11 will have come out and I would have to start again.

i would say that they are an evolving species anyway . . . new things learnt, new features, etc, etc all go toward a continued development of the way you (and i) work.

i'm sure graphisoft will continue to support work environments, build new features (where applicable) in . . . don't forget: you can export it (either the whole profile, or scheme-by-scheme) and take it with you cross-office, cross-platform, cross-upgrade . . .

~/archiben

[Anonymous]

~/archiben wrote:

ejrolon wrote:
I am not criticizing but my feeling is that by the timewhen I finally get AC09 WE running as perfect as I want them ACX or AC11 will have come out and I would have to start again.

i would say that they are an evolving species anyway . . . new things learnt, new features, etc, etc all go toward a continued development of the way you (and i) work.

i'm sure graphisoft will continue to support work environments, build new features (where applicable) in . . . don't forget: you can export it (either the whole profile, or scheme-by-scheme) and take it with you cross-office, cross-platform, cross-upgrade . . .

~/archiben

I think the new Work Environment feature is great even though I have to redo my keyboard shortcuts. I usually like to revisit this with each new version anyway, and the redo is only a small part of the work of setting up the new environments. The ability to save, share and transport the WEs is really great.

Let us assume that Graphisoft understands this and will continue to support the feature for the foreseeable future. If, for some strange reason, they make us all redo our WEs for version 10, then we can scream and shout and stomp our feet with rage. I don't think this is going to happen though.

Of course there may be some adjustments that we will WANT to make in order to make the most of whatever the new features are.

[Stephen Dolbee]

ejrolon wrote:
At least you have the expert option. In the US version you can choose between:
Standard 9
US Basic User Preference Scheme 9
US Standard User Preference Scheme 9

Can someone expain the differences? We just upgraded to 9.

Thanks,
Steve

[Eduardo Rolon]

If I remember correctly:
US Standard User Preference Scheme 9
is the one equivalent to expert.
To verify choose the WE with those prefs and do a right click on any object to see if you have the "multiply" option in the menu.

BTW my comment was a bad joke

[Stephen Dolbee]

Thanks. We received the software for 9, but the documentation was back-ordered.

Steve

[Tom Krowka]

There is another one called "default" in addition to the other three. I'm assuming you found the three settings in the opening dialogue box. I found the default setting enables you to display a multitude of toolbars, but toolbar>display was not available with at least one of the other WE settings. I wonder what the differences are between them, without trying them all out. Anyone know?