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Morph convertion "BUG"

Botonis
Advisor

When you have an opening that goes through more than one elements , when you convert to morph it's taken in condideration only for the initial element on which it was created.

 

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.
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Solution

You have to convert the parent slab that contains the opening and the other slabs connected to the opening at the same time.

Converting just the connected slabs will not include the opening.

 

Barry.

 

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Hi @Botonis,

I think it’s not a bug & rather it’s a good catch.

AFAIU objects like windows & doors are associated only to the element they are belong to.

 

So I think the opening is only attached to only one element and as an extra function it can penetrate other elements that lets you create a shaft penetrating many slabs or a cable tray passing through many walls.

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Patrick M
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what happens if you convert both elements to morph at the same time?

BIM solutions and trouble shooting (self proclaimed) expert. Using Archicad 26 5002 US on Mac OS 11.5.2

@Patrick M wrote:

what happens if you convert both elements to morph at the same time?



That is the way to do it.

 

The actual opening can not be converted to a morph.

Only the containing (parent) element can be converted to a morph.

If you convert just the parent element, then there will no longer be an opening (can't have openings in morphs) and therefore no opening in the attached elements any more.

So you have to convert those attached elements too at the same time as you convert the parent element.

 

You can't convert the attached elements first, as the opening does not belong to them and will not be converted.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
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Botonis
Advisor

Strange. One case of a slab with a connected opening that when it is converted to morph it does not consider the opening. Is this the way it should be?

I feel something is not stable here but is migh be just an idea.....

 

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.
Solution

You have to convert the parent slab that contains the opening and the other slabs connected to the opening at the same time.

Converting just the connected slabs will not include the opening.

 

Barry.

 

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

Barry. I am not sure whether this is the solution for all cases..

The second video shows an opening which is attached to the slab already. When you convert to morph the slab takes its initial shape.

Is this the way it should be? I am not sure.

In the first video it was converted correctly.

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.

Sorry I didn't notice the videos.

 

I wondered if it had to do with the direction the opening cut through the slab.

I tried one along the length of the slab and at a slight angle and that still worked as expected.

 

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No matter where I place the opening it seems to convert to a morph OK.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11
Botonis
Advisor

Ok. This is one of those times that this behaviour is file "specific".

When I copy the slab with the opening to a new file it works as expected.

In this certain file it won't. So something is affecting the converting action!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

A file repair didn;t change a thing.

 

Are all those things happening just to me!!!!????

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.
Botonis
Advisor

And suddenly after opening a new file and perform the action corrreclty

the previous file is working fine!!!!!

I guess it had to see how the action is correctly performed to act similarly.

 

One of the thing that science cannot explain..................  

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.