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Railing Tool and Inner Posts -- what am I missing?

In the attached screenshot, inner posts are set at 4'-0". The railing shown is 12'-0" long -- shouldn't there be 2 inner posts (instead of just the one shown)?

What am I missing?

Rail Tool.jpg
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However, I'm still not clear on what this does. Attached is what happened to my Railing (top) when I select that command (bottom). Now, the landing is modeled separately from the Stair, and the Railing is associated to the Stair, so that might have something to do with this result.

I will continue to experiment...
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Getting closer -- still not sure what's controlling the balustrade spacing.
Balustrade 1.jpg
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Screenshot 2
Balustrade 2.jpg
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Just found the link you posted earlier today:

https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/tips/archicad/modelling/railing-tool-basics-convert-pattern-to-seg...

something else that should be added to Help
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laszlonagy wrote:
Laura wrote:
On another note, looks like I may have to model handrails separately, too.

I don't need a handrail at the landing, only at the stair, so I've deleted the handrail from the landing segments. It looks like End Settings are exclusively for the end of Railing NOT end of Rail/Handrail.

Of course, if I end up modeling the landing separately (and thus end up with 2 separate Railings) this issue may be solved.
This is again handled by the "Convert Pattern to Segment Length" context menu command. Using the command will make Handrail segments of Flights and Landing independent of each other so they can be modified individually.
I guess I'm still doing something wrong, because I just cannot control anything (length, end settings, etc.) about the handrail extension.
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Chris Grantham
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Just following up on this to see if anyone has been able to get the railing tool to work with any consistency.

I have a project with ton of railings so I figured I would give the railing tool a deep dive, and all I discovered was buggy inconsistent behavior. There just seems to be no rhyme or reason as to how those inner posts land in a segment, and the more I play with the pattern distribution it just becomes unresponsive. Converting pattern to segment length only seems to exacerbate the problem. Anyone else having these problems? I can post screen shots and walk you through my problems, but first I want to see if it is even worth my time.
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Barry Kelly
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Have you tried selecting the railing and going into 'Edit' mode?
Then select the individual components.
You can adjust the settings in the info box / settings dialogue for just that component.
Or you may be able to move and stretch the hotspots of that element.

"Convert Pattern to Segment Length" can be useful when for example you want to move an inner post without affecting the position of adjacent posts.

These stairs and railings do require an awful lot of experimentation.

I often drag a copy just to have a play around, so I will always have the original if I need it.

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Chris Grantham
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Thanks for the response Barry.

Yes, I have drilled down into the different elements and attempted to move things around, but continue to have trouble. As I mentioned the "Convert Pattern To Segment Length" seemed only compound my problems. Really all I was trying to do was move an inner post within a segment so that it would be centered. I think most of my problems stemmed from me attempting to use associative methods rather than static.

When I have time I will post some screen shots illustrating my troubles as I know my descriptions are not very useful without them.
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