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Recessed windows

Anonymous
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I've attached a couple of sketches for some typical recessed window details we like to use on custom homes, but don't know the best way to do these. #1 shows 2x6 stud exterior walls (we're not doing wall composites at this time), but then the window opening is oversized 3" (or more as reqd) and filled with 2x4's as shown for a 2" deep recess all the way around. Just am a little stumped how best to do get the 2x4 recessed wall in there.

Drawing #2 is similiar except that this one is a double 2x4 exterior wall with the window set in the INSIDE wall, thus creating a 4 1/2" deep recess. It would seem that the best way to do this is to do the inside wall with the windows, and then come back and add the outside wall joining it to the inside wall as shown, but maybe there's an easier way.

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Anonymous
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Thank you everyone for your helpful suggestions. I will try them out here in a bit and see which works for me.

I typically have been using the SE9 single hung1 window.

Can someone tell me what the peculiar looking IMO icon is for window placement as shown below? It seems like this comes somewhat close "out of the box" to what I'm looking for, but the window should be in the narrow portion....when I've used this insertion method it creates a weird wall inside of the window.
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Anonymous
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Josephus wrote:
Can someone tell me what the peculiar looking IMO icon is for window placement as shown below? ....when I've used this insertion method it creates a weird wall inside of the window.
Small parts of walls (always on outside direction) called reveal. I'm not sure if anywhere they are still in use, but this construction method was used before new generation of Windows/Doors cames out. This is/was just simple universal cheap construction:
1. No need to montage additional cornice on top of W-Opening (was needed with old bad wood windows, without any isolation )
2. helped on old bad wood windows montage works.
3. was as additional air dump (resistance).
There is a option in AC to draw reveals on bottom, however I haven't seen reveals on bottom of opening. They are always on sides+top, because on bottom of window are sill & board.
Anonymous
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Well, with your help I'm getting somewhere.

I first tried Dan's suggestion with setting the wall type to brick veneer wall, and so far have not had any luck with it. Could you give me some specific settings to try?

Petros' suggestion actually got me the closest and is pretty simple and quick to do, although I have a little glitch with the vertical lines extending. Any ideas how to get rid of those, if so, this will work fine for me.

By the way, the "reveal" positioning of the windows seems backwards to me...who would want a "wall" reveal IN FRONT of the window as this is the only option?

Well, this is about as long as my wife is willing to wait for me, unless I want to eat dinner by myself
Anonymous
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Here's the attachment from the previous post.
rec win test 1.jpg
Petros Ioannou
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Josephus ,
you can get rid of those lines if you use the stack window option inside the parameters of your window.
Most of the windows and doors in AC have this option. This allows you to stack windows so there are options for left, right, top & bottom.
In your case you can set them all on.


Petros
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Anonymous
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Petros wrote:
The empty opening should be wider than the casement window (2 x reveals) and also do not forget to give it a transparent background fill (2d settings) so that you can see the casement window on plan.

Petros
Is the "empty" fill the same as the transparent background you're referring to?

Also, I can not find a "stack" option in the window parameter.

By the way, for the empty opening I used the funny placement icon with the reveals, and made the reveal thickness the same as the wall the window is in (3-1/2"). Which placement method did you use for the larger opening....how can you get it to go in only 2" as opposed to the entire wall?
Petros Ioannou
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Inside the parameters of all windows there is an option for connectivity on the left, right etc. Search better! There is a chance you use a 3d party window so in that case maybe there isn't such an parameter.
For a fill you define both the hatch pen-color and the background pen-colour. Choosing the Empty Fill does not mean that your object is transparent, unless you choose transparent color for its background (0).
As for placing the empty opening I did not understood what you are asking. (my poor english..)


Petros
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Anonymous
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I was wondering which "placement" icon I need to use for the second larger opening (see drawing on the left below). When I used the one on the left, it made a larger opening in the entire wall with the window "floating" in between.

I was looking for the keyword "stacking" which I could not find, is the connectivity parameters shown in the attachment to the right what you're talking about?

As for your English, it is 1000X better than my Greek, although believe it or not, I've studied it a little and really like the logical manner it forms words.
rec win 2.jpg
Anonymous
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Josephus,

look at screenshot below, maybe it can help you to find & set necessary parameters.

And something useful: if you create new "Empty Window" using GDL and add "Cavity Closure"+"Turn Plaster" options you will be able to use just one simple composite wall instead of many wall tiles in your case.
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Anonymous
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Zohrab, I'm jealous, the screenshot you show is very clean. It looks like you're using a different interface than I am (INT versus US ?). Anyway, I found a "ganging" option which indeed got rid of the lines I was asking about, although I see the ganging material inside my wall, see Arrow (2). also the wall line is cut where the ganging occurs (1).

I don't seem to be able to upload the attached pic