TomWaltz wrote:
Bricklyne wrote:
....then, wouldn't this be false advertising on Graphisoft's part?
That's just a pretty picture that shows when you open Archicad 12. There's nothing anywhere claiming that it was modeled or rendered using Archicad 12.
If I remember right, the Wright house was not built in AC11 either.
.......well, I admit I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the whole selling point with the Massaro residence (the Wright designed residence) and AC11 was the fact that Thomas Heinz used ArchiCAD 11 (and specifically the featured upgrade tool of AC11- Virtual Trace) to transfer Wright's original design sketches and drawings and to develop a model for producing Construction Documentation for the building's residence. In fact that model was used over and again to demonstrate this feature (along with other new features such as the curved profiles and improved detailing tools) in the respective feature demos for AC 11. Not that the house was actually "built" in ArchiCAD 11 as you said or are trying to imply I stated. (which I didn't).
My post was about the implication that GS make, in that, the curtain wall of the demo building shown in the video for AC12 (which is incidentally also used to demonstrate most of the features for AC 12 as well) could be built using AC12 tools as opposed to the tedious methods we're used to. Apparently that's not the case. I didn't say anything anywhere about rendering.
A similar comparison can be made with Rojkind's red house design also featured in AC10 - regarding how they could justifiably state that it was designed and modeled using AC10's new tools over traditional longer methods.
It just seems like false advertising by implication; sort of like how someone would lie by omission. If the curtain wall tool can't do curves in the Z-axis and then you show a building that suggests that that could actually be the case then wouldn't it be akin to implying that the Complex profile in ArchiCAD 10 (when it was introduced) could also do curved profiles when the reality is that we all know you could only achieve that through workarounds?
It just seems a little disingenuous to me that's all, and likely to be easily misconstrued. Kind of like, the sort of thing a lawyer would do by justifiably claiming they were not lying to you directly but then, they really weren't being honest with you neither, by not actually stating the truth when they know it - having their cake and eating it too. You know it's going to help sell more licenses even if through conveying a misleading message
Granted the program hasn't even been released, but this is the sort of thing that's likely to happen when the developers or rather GS are unwilling to have any sort of official presence on their own forums to address any inquiries of their soon-to-be-released product as we were discussing before.
Anyway, all I wanted was a clarification and I got it.
The only other thing I would be curious to know is whether there are any plans for any future versions to have this capability of the Curtain Wall tool (applying a curtain wall system to a curved profile or surface in the Z-axis) in any future versions - but I don't believe any Beta-testers can answer that.
