Sloping Profiler

[Scott Bulmer]

I seem to have forgotten how to make a sloping profile. Can someone please advise me before I kill myself.
Thanks, as usual.
Scott

[Anonymous]

Z.Bauer wrote:

Scott wrote:
I seem to have forgotten how to make a sloping profile. Can someone please advise me before I kill myself.
Scott

Use ArchiForma add-on or 3D Profiler from CadImageTools instead AC std profiler in such cases.

Can anyone comment on why these two elements (created using Profile Manager) do not join when I use the "Intersect" function?

[David Maudlin]

LINZ:

ArchiCAD will find the intersection in the 2D plan plane, not 3D space.

David

[Anonymous]

You can use hidden elements to use as SEO's to cut the elements to look like they intersect. I made a dormer with classical revival detailing that had 4 different layers (all with different layer priorities) to achieve the proper look. I was able to use the 3D dormer to get all my sections, elevations, eave & rake details, etc.

[Anonymous]

David wrote:
LINZ:

ArchiCAD will find the intersection in the 2D plan plane, not 3D space.

David

I'm not sure what that means. Could you explain?

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Steven wrote:
You can use hidden elements to use as SEO's to cut the elements to look like they intersect. I made a dormer with classical revival detailing that had 4 different layers (all with different layer priorities) to achieve the proper look. I was able to use the 3D dormer to get all my sections, elevations, eave & rake details, etc.

This method creates a problem where the object's materials are not consistent at the location of the intersection. If I'm not understanding you correctly, do you have an example you could show?

[David Maudlin]

LINZ wrote:

David wrote:
ArchiCAD will find the intersection in the 2D plan plane, not 3D space.

I'm not sure what that means. Could you explain?

ArchiCAD is just considering the X-Y plane. So two beams that are parallel in plan (as shown in your example) cannot intersect, they have to be at some angle to each other. On the other hand if the beams are at an angle to each other, but at different heights, they will still be intersected in plan, even though they do not intersect in 3D. In your example the two beams would intersect at some Z point, but ArchiCAD is not looking at the Z values, only the X & Y values.

David

[Anonymous]

David wrote:

LINZ wrote:

David wrote:
ArchiCAD will find the intersection in the 2D plan plane, not 3D space.

I'm not sure what that means. Could you explain?

ArchiCAD is just considering the X-Y plane. So two beams that are parallel in plan (as shown in your example) cannot intersect, they have to be at some angle to each other. On the other hand if the beams are at an angle to each other, but at different heights, they will still be intersected in plan, even though they do not intersect in 3D. In your example the two beams would intersect at some Z point, but ArchiCAD is not looking at the Z values, only the X & Y values.

David

I imagine this would all be easier with AC 15? I wonder if the ability to extrude a custom profile on a ruled surface or line would be the best solution here.

[David Maudlin]

LINZ wrote:
I imagine this would all be easier with AC 15? I wonder if the ability to extrude a custom profile on a ruled surface or line would be the best solution here.

I don't think AC 15 will make any difference in joining two beams. I would use an Elevation view to move the top of the sloping beam to the correct spot in the Z direction, then go back to plan to stretch its other end to the right spot.When stretching a sloped beam the Pet Palette gives 2 options for either continuing the slope or maintaining the current Z height, use the 1st option.

You should add to your Signature in your Profile your current ArchiCAD version for more accurate help in this forum.

David

[Anonymous]

David wrote:

LINZ wrote:
I imagine this would all be easier with AC 15? I wonder if the ability to extrude a custom profile on a ruled surface or line would be the best solution here.

I don't think AC 15 will make any difference in joining two beams. I would use an Elevation view to move the top of the sloping beam to the correct spot in the Z direction, then go back to plan to stretch its other end to the right spot.When stretching a sloped beam the Pet Palette gives 2 options for either continuing the slope or maintaining the current Z height, use the 1st option.

You should add to your Signature in your Profile your current ArchiCAD version for more accurate help in this forum.

David

I left this problem, and just came back to it today.

If I understand correctly, then, there is NO method in Archicad to resolve this problem. I wonder how other people create custom eaves and soffits? This seems like a problem that needs a resolution as it's so common in residential design.

[Dennis Lee]

http://www.archicadwiki.com/GableProfileWithShell

AC15 required.