Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that ~/archiben's way (And the way I handle it) only works with the "Create New Stair." I think if you just modify a stair out of the library you are not going to be able to get it to show up correctly.? You will be able to get the upper and lower parts to show up on their own floors, but, the ups and downs and arrows won't cooperate.
Oh, and- for the create new stair/~/archiben/my way of doing this you need also to turn on "Arrow Up/Down"
Oh, and- for the create new stair/~/archiben/my way of doing this you need also to turn on "Arrow Up/Down"
Jesikuh123 wrote:I think you may be wrong, Jesikuh
Correct me if I am wrong, ...
You can edit stairs' properties and display parameters after creating them in the main stair dialogue.
Jesikuh123 wrote:i never use stairmaker (the 'create new stair' option), so i know that it works for the stair objects in the library as well.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that ~/archiben's way (And the way I handle it) only works with the "Create NewStair."
with regard to the arrow (and here is where i start a great big shit fight!) - from a graphic convention point of view, i don't believe that the arrow should show anything other than the 'up' direction anyway . . .
~/archiben
~/archiben wrote:CORRECT!
with regard to the arrow (and here is where i start a great big <b>[censored]</b> fight!) - from a graphic convention point of view, i don't believe that the arrow should show anything other than the 'up' direction anyway . . .
~/archiben
~/archiben wrote:Ummmm... except the direction of egress is typically DOWN.
with regard to the arrow (and here is where i start a great big <b>[censored]</b> fight!) - from a graphic convention point of view, i don't believe that the arrow should show anything other than the 'up' direction anyway . . .
Regardless, we need to have more control of the 2D symbol, be it with a Stair object or StairMaker.
Laura wrote:since i threw the ingredients together, i feel compelled to give it a stir too . . .
Ummmm... except the direction of egress is typically DOWN.
egress is not a function of the stair - it's a requirement unto itself. but maybe your regs require it to be so - i can only imagine the confusion should someone overlook the little 'up'/'dn' text.
out of interest, if you had a fire escape door at a half landing level do you have one flight showing an arrow up and the other showing an arrow down all within the same stair?Regardless, we need to have more control of the 2D symbol, be it with a Stair object or StairMaker.. . . or any object. my complaints over most third party additions to archicad are usually 2D representation related. stair graphic convention joking aside, an object's representation must be incredibly flexible. all too often developers of objects have one idea about how it should look and ignore the possibility that another user might need something else.
~/ben
~/archiben wrote:In commercial work, egress is typically the ONLY function of the stair (traveling between stories is what the elevator is for
egress is not a function of the stair - it's a requirement unto itself.
).~/archiben wrote:Yep. And this is one thing that frustrates me about the available 2D symbols -- typically it's not one or the other: from an intermediate story, one flight goes UP and the other DOWN.
out of interest, if you had a fire escape door at a half landing level do you have one flight showing an arrow up and the other showing an arrow down all within the same stair?
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