Grid Tool again

[Anonymous]

We have a very large project, and it is important for us to ensure the grids placed using the grid tool are visible in section and elevation. (Archicad 11 US Build:1112)

However, the appearance of the grids in the overall and detail sections and elevations appears random, as they sometimes appear and disappear. (It seems to work better when you have exclusive access to the Teamwork Project, however this is obviously no always possible.)

Also, the grid markers in sections and elevations all appear staggered, even when there is no overlap.

Has anyone had similar problems with the grid tool:
1) selectively permitting grids to disappear in section/elevations
2) total staggering of the markers in section and elevation.

[Laura Yanoviak]

Rod wrote:
Has anyone had similar problems with the grid tool:
1) selectively permitting grids to disappear in section/elevations
2) total staggering of the markers in section and elevation.

Oh Ya. 1) I have found no work-around for (in AC10, the grid lines were -- let's say -- "flakey", but at least once you got them where you wanted them, they stayed put). In AC11, it seems to be totally unpredictable and random, and 2) try entering .001 as the Staggering parameter (under the Section/Elevation Panel of the Grid Element dialog) -- it doesn't like zero.

[Dennis Lee]

For me, the grids were fine until I tried to unlink multiple elevations / sections to "manual rebuild" from the view map, which randomly got rid of some grids. When they were created as "auto rebuild", they showed everything, and to make them "manual rebuild", I had to open each view, wait for the auto rebuild to take place, and then change the setting to manual rebuild one view at a time. Since then they are ok...so far.

[gkovacsp]

Rod wrote:
2) total staggering of the markers in section and elevation.

Have you tried switching off Auto staggering in the Section/Elevation --> Grid Tool panel?

[gkovacsp]

Rod wrote:
1) selectively permitting grids to disappear in section/elevations

I reproduced it and I admit it is a bug - and a very peculiar one...

The workaround is to select the S/E one by one on the floor plan and change them to manual rebuild one by one.
One doesn't have to open the view itself to change the S/E to manual rebuild, just open its settings from the floor plan and change it right there.

[Laura Yanoviak]

The Grid Tool is basically unusable, and several hotfixes later, it's still broken. The structural grid is extremely important to construction documentation, and we can't afford to have them randomly appear/disappear and shift around.

[Anonymous]

About 6 months ago after much much frustration we decided not to use the grid tool. Its extremely buggy and on a large project with over 300 drawings is simply not worth the risk when in dissapears. We have a simple object that shows on all storeys in plan view and have gone back to basics in the s/e window by drawing them ourselves.

[Anonymous]

I also had issues with the Grid Tool (teamworked file, AC11), it was impossible to edit after initial insertion. We also had problems with dimension strings appearing (and then randomly reappearing) even though we had chosen to NOT show the dimensions in the settings. It's frustrating to suddnely see a random dimension string run acorss an interior elevation as you're printing your cd's.

Tech support said they could not reproduce our problems, and we sent them EVERYTHING.

I agree with Laura, structural grids are IMMENSLY important. We need a working solution.

[Laura Yanoviak]

Alice wrote:
I also had issues with the Grid Tool (teamworked file, AC11), it was impossible to edit after initial insertion. We also had problems with dimension strings appearing (and then randomly reappearing) even though we had chosen to NOT show the dimensions in the settings.

I have experienced both of these problems.

Alice wrote:
It's frustrating to suddnely see a random dimension string run acorss an interior elevation as you're printing your cd's.

It's also frustrating that there are no Grid Tool settings within the IE Marker dialog (I don't want grids in my interior elevations)!!!

[Chazz]

One pretty pathetic workaround I've used is to place a floor plan view of the grids above/next to the sections and elevations in the layouts. This way, if you change the grids in plan it at least updates in the other windows.