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Wall Volume - Scheduling Values Incorrect

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When I get the 'Element information' of a wall - it has the (close to) correct volume listed under 'Volume (Clean Intersections, Crop to Roof, Door & Window)' - however when I go to the schedule (either a component schedule or element schedule) - the fields I can select from to get data don't come up with the same value. What am I missing?

Thank you!

Element Info:

 

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 Element Schedule:

 

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Component Schedule

 

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Operating system used: Windows

   

AC 26 USA (latest build) - Windows 11 - Intel i7 - 64 GB Ram - NVIDIA RTX A4000
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Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin

What does the "Volume (Conditional)" field return in the Schedule?

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Volume (Conditional) yields '---' 

AC 26 USA (latest build) - Windows 11 - Intel i7 - 64 GB Ram - NVIDIA RTX A4000
Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin

That does not look right. The Volume (Conditional) parameter should work the following way according to the Help files:

https://help.graphisoft.com/AC/28/INT/index.htm#t=_AC28_Help%2F060_ElementParameters%2F060_ElementPa...

 

Volume (Condi­tional)

Volume of Construction element (Beam, Roof, Shell, Slab, or Wall).

 

This volume may be condi­tioned on a defined Calcu­lation Rule.

Condition: subtracts the volume of any openings that exceed a given size, as defined in Options > Project Preferences > Calculation Rules.

Reduced by trims and SEO's.

 

So, I think this is a bug, and I will report it to GS HQ.

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AMD Ryzen9 5900X CPU, 64 GB RAM 3600 MHz, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
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Thank you - seems like something is off. I did find that there was a beam which intersected the wall in question (hidden on another layer) - once I removed/deleted that beam I was able to get the schedule to populate with the volume shown in the 'element properties'. But it seems like those two numbers (element properties and schedule) should be the same number, at least based on the parameter definition - or am I misunderstanding something?

 

Thanks so much, really appreciate the help!

AC 26 USA (latest build) - Windows 11 - Intel i7 - 64 GB Ram - NVIDIA RTX A4000

So, you are saying that once the Beam was removed, the Volume (Conditional) parameter returned a correct value in both the Element Information Palette and the schedule?

Loving Archicad since 1995 - Find Archicad Tips at x.com/laszlonagy
AMD Ryzen9 5900X CPU, 64 GB RAM 3600 MHz, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 500 GB NVMe SSD
2x28" (2560x1440), Windows 10 PRO ENG, Ac20-Ac28

Yes. I guess my question is why would there be a discrepancy between the two to begin with? Shouldn't they be returning the same values since they are being measured by the same things?

Thank you!

AC 26 USA (latest build) - Windows 11 - Intel i7 - 64 GB Ram - NVIDIA RTX A4000
Laszlo Nagy
Community Admin
Community Admin

Can you show me a screenshot where the Volume (Conditional) in the Element Information Palette and Volume (Conditional) in the Schedule report different values? I agree that they should report the same value, and in your original post, they seem to have reported zero.

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