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2023-08-29 08:37 PM
In the stair settings dialog, under "flight structure settings", I have been choosing monolithic stair as a generic stair starter because it gives me a shape closest to what I expect in section. But I am just confounded by the "remaining stringer size" setting immediately underneath this flight structure type.
How is this setting actually useful?
I sort of get that it identifies the meat of the stringer remaining once the stair is cut, but how is that useful as a stair design driver?!? Would it not be more useful to select a stringer size & have the settings create the appropriate remaining shape?
Assuming a 2x12 stringer with 3/4 finish material at the tread & riser, for instance...this "remaining stringer" number changes with every change in the Rise/Run settings and yet it's not a part of the parametricity of the tool.
What are people doing for a generic residential straight run stair based on 2x12 framing?
Should I just ignore this until I have actual calcs sizing framing later in the project?
(it just grates on me every time I see it, but maybe i'm just not understanding how this should be used or what alternative strategy of creating simple stairs I should be using)
thanks for your perspectives up front
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2023-08-30 03:25 AM
I would think that Wishes is the suitable location for this thread. For a Monolithic stair the structural thickness IS the relevant input. So, I see this as a Wish for a Beam Type which has a stepped top with a raked bottom.
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2023-08-29 08:44 PM
[for some reason I couldn't use the "edit message" button, so an edit of my first line...]
"In the stair settings dialog, under "flight structure settings", I have been choosing FLAT stair as a generic stair starter because it gives me a shape closest to what I expect in section."
2023-08-29 09:27 PM
& apologies about putting this in "Wishes"...I was searching the topic of stair settings & didn't realize that...if mods want to move, that'd be appreciated
2023-08-30 03:25 AM
I would think that Wishes is the suitable location for this thread. For a Monolithic stair the structural thickness IS the relevant input. So, I see this as a Wish for a Beam Type which has a stepped top with a raked bottom.
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2023-08-30 03:51 AM
That is not a stringer setting.
It is what I would refer to as the 'throat' of the stair.
The base thickness of a concrete or monolithic stair.
Stringers are separate elements added to the sides and I am pretty sure they are position from the top of the riser and can be set to what ever depth you need.
I don't think the thickness of this 'throat' has an effect on the stringer.
Barry.
2023-08-30 04:20 AM - edited 2023-08-30 04:22 AM
I knew I'd seen the desired stringer type somewhere, BUT the beam size is also defined by the throat size... because you would obviously be gluing wedges of timber onto a timber beam...
Ling.
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2023-08-30 04:29 AM
Yes, I've seen those & understand that those exist in archicad. But I'm not looking for diagonals that sandwich all the steps, but ones trimmed underneath to the risers/treads. Does that tool do that?
2023-08-30 04:30 AM - last edited on 2023-08-30 04:34 AM by Barry Kelly
[can we no longer edit our posts?!?]
I can (but I am a moderator), but you should be able to as well.
Barry.
2023-08-30 04:35 AM - edited 2023-08-30 04:35 AM
You should be able to.
Barry.
2023-08-30 04:36 AM
yeah, i get nothing when i try to use "edit reply" from the 3 dots