Keynotes and linking to change manager / marker

[thomaslodge]

I'm wondering if anyone has a workflow for updating keynotes on multiple layouts.

For example, a colleague made a key note "RN-01 Rainwater pipes Min 2 no. per gutter." This has been placed on three layouts, 2 detail drawings and 1 roof plan and then issued as P01.

I've then changed the text to read: "RN-01 Rainwater pipes Min 3 no. per gutter." But I don't know where this is placed or how many times. How do you highlight this change in the change manager and then have all corresponding layouts change to the next revision number? 

Currently, the only solution I have found is to manually trawl through every layout and check.

Operating system used: Windows

[Marc H]

Hi Thomas,

Could you publish your draft changes as a PDF and locate them that way?

Going forward, it might be a good practice to document the keynote schemes so one knows where they will show up.  Another practice to consider is to make the keynotes more generic and refer to a material schedule for specific values.  Then you only have one instance to cloud (in the material schedule).

[thomaslodge]

We could but that would mean publishing all layouts as a single PDF to then search it. Rather cumbersome, I hope you'd agree and not far off the trawling method already used..

I think your other suggestion is rather more complex as that would require always having a material schedule and is rather restrictive - I'm often defending Archicad to some of my colleagues who already complain about the restrictive design features, such as stairs and shells. This is also assuming that people stick to this method. I'd be interested in how you implement your suggestion in your practice.

[Marc H]

Hi Thomas,

Maybe I’m being too old school. I routinely publish a PDF set and I can Ctrl+F if I find an error to see if there are other instances. I can see, however, with a very repetitive term on a larger project it would be a lot of work.

As to the keynotes, when I mentioned a ‘material schedule’, I was referring to using a wall-type schedule (or other assembly type schedule) where you can label the composite segment with its BMat properties in lieu of having that data dispersed across plan, section, and elevations.

I’m not clear on how this issue limits creativity, though. Maybe there is more to it that I’m understanding.