Renovation Feature - Diff Layer Combos for Diff plans or not

[Dennis Lee]

The renovation features are great in general, but how do others deal with showing annotation in the different plans?

Obviously the modeling elements can have the renovation settings set according to the design intent, but how do you show leaders, notes, detail references, enlarged plan references, section / elevation markers in the different plans?

Leader lines and dimension lines take on the linetype override settings set in the renovation overrides, so if you have all the demolition items to show up with a hidden line for example, your dimensions and leader notes will show up with hidden lines as well. This can be solved to a certain extent by having the "demolition" notes and dims to actually be "existing" status (thus not taking on the hidden line override of the demolition filter), but checked to show on the "current filter only" with the demolition plan.

However, the viewpoint generators (section, elevation, interior elevation, detail callouts) all seem to have no renovation filter setting at all? Does this mean that if you want to show the detail reference of a new wall, it will show up in the demolition plan as well? Does this mean that for all the annotation elements it is still better to have a different layer combo for the different plans?

[cgrimley]

Dennis wrote:
Leader lines and dimension lines take on the linetype override settings set in the renovation overrides, so if you have all the demolition items to show up with a hidden line for example, your dimensions and leader notes will show up with hidden lines as well. This can be solved to a certain extent by having the "demolition" notes and dims to actually be "existing" status (thus not taking on the hidden line override of the demolition filter), but checked to show on the "current filter only" with the demolition plan.

Here's the problem I'm having, my dimensions are on the "New" Status and they show up fine in the view, but once I place the view on a layout the dimension lines show up dashed and gray, which is my override setting for "Existing" status.
This only occurs on the Elevation dimensions in section or elevation. (see attached)
I think this might be a bug of some sort. Has anyone else had this problem?

[vfrontiers]

And if you OPEN SOURCE VIEW of this drawing from your Layout, do you see it correctly?

If not, your RENOVATION FILTER as set in your VIEW OPTIONS is different than you want...Make sure this is set correctly...

If yes, then most like some kind of bug.

Just a guess....

[cgrimley]

Yes its shown correctly in the source view

[Anonymous]

Dear all,
I have a problem and maybe you found a workaround.
I have a section A, and with the new AC15 renovation feature I try to have two different section layouts (Existing and Proposal)
In the section marker - 2nd row I try to find out how to have both layouts linked, of course not in the same time.
It's possible to have two different section with the same ID and different name in different layers linked to different layouts, but I need to take care of both section settings instead of one.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Regards.

[Anonymous]

Catalin wrote:
Dear all,
I have a problem and maybe you found a workaround.
I have a section A, and with the new AC15 renovation feature I try to have two different section layouts (Existing and Proposal)
In the section marker - 2nd row I try to find out how to have both layouts linked, of course not in the same time.
It's possible to have two different section with the same ID and different name in different layers linked to different layouts, but I need to take care of both section settings instead of one.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Regards.

If I understand correctly you can use the same, uniquely named section to create differently named views with different layer and renovation status settings.

[Anonymous]

Indeed Matthew, so it's only one way. We treat this issue as a bug/omission or this is the only way? It will become harder and harder to manage...

[Anonymous]

I guess I don't understand the problem. The single viewpoint provides the source for multiple views which can be renamed (or not) as needed for their various purposes. I don't see how this could be improved. Definitely a feature rather than a bug from my perspective.

BTW: The views can have the same names if you prefer and just be organized into different folders.

[Anonymous]

Yes the single viewpoint provide the source for multiple views but the marker on the plans for the section, but in the 2nd row text I need to reference it to multiple layouts (at least one for existing and one for proposal)

so one section can be referenced (text in the 2nd row) to only one layout

[Anonymous]

OK, I understand now. It is a problem of the referencing. Do you need it to: 1. show both sheet references at once or; 2. different ones depending on the drawing set. These might be accomplished (though I'm not sure) by:

1. This might be possible with a custom section marker. I'd have to check the GDL options to be sure

2. Use different PLN files for each drawing set so the drawing

[JaredBanks]

This could also be handled with linked markers on various layers, each linking to one of the saved views.