Next phase of subscription transition announced

[Richard Doll]

Dear Community Members, 

Following my recent Graphisoft Insights post on the Subscription transition update, we know how important this topic is for you as our clients and anticipate your comments and questions. To streamline communication, we’ve created this thread to gather everything in one place. We’ll also use it to identify topics that may need further clarification, which we’ll address on our FAQ page.

Please note that while we cannot respond to individual questions in the forum, your local representative is available for personalized support.

Best regards,
Richard

Link to Insights article: https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Graphisoft-Insights/Important-update-Next-phase-of-subscription-...

[Jp1138]

You are completely right: once you enter the subscription realm, you are at the mercy of GS. That´s why nearly every software tries to go to this model, as it has no drawbacks for them - if they convince their clients to start paying, of course.

[Karl Ottenstein]

True - just as we had no idea what the SSA payment would be from year to year either.  But, Graphisoft is at least offering a known 3 year (to 6 year) contract price upon certain conversion options... giving a predictable budget for that time period:
https://graphisoft.com/convert-ssa-forward-to-archicad-collaborate

[ryejuan]

Yes, I understand where you are coming from but what I understand is that for the 3 year contract that you will subscribe you will get the almost same price you are paying in your SSA/ Forward (if you manage to get the promo they offer) which is like the same as having a perpetual license then after that contract period you can either decide if you want to continue or just revert back to the perpetual license which they coined perpetual fallback which gives you that current Archicad version.

At the end of the day we are just using their tools and they are in command to whatever they want to do... 

[Koji]

Graphisoft has been unable to understand something very simple. If you intend to make a subscription program by eliminating the perpetual license, at least this subscription has to be really affordable.

Adobe charges €70 per month for its ENTIRE suite (Photoshop, Acrobat, Lightroom, illustrator, premiere) while Graphisoft intends to charge more than double.

It is an absolute shame and for my part my relationship with Graphisoft is over, which I should remember that greed has made larger companies disappear.

[Jp1138]

The example they are following is Autodesk, that charges double of what they are askinig, so in their view they are very cheap...

[mthd]

There is also a big difference between Architectural and Engineering software when you make an honest appraisal. True Archicad is one of the best Architectural solutions out there but not the only option available. I personally prefer to own my software like many others do too. We will see what the future holds. I don’t mind using an older version of Archicad becuase future versions will not exactly be re-inventing the wheel. The new CEO has been recruited as the terminator of the perpetual upgrade of AC. Asta La Vista Baby ! 😆.

[Jp1138]

I´m in the same boat as you.

What worries me is the support GS will give to perpetual users when you lose your license in a computer malfunction...

Sooner or later they are pushing us to look for other options.

[mthd]

Please also read the fine print in the updated FAQ’s on this web page for more information about conversion to subscriptions. Here is the link for those that need more information. 

https://graphisoft.com/convert-ssa-forward-to-archicad-collaborate/

In my circumstances I am happy with the last perpetual version they can offer me.

If a GS representative would like to negotiate, please negotiate with GS HQ to not terminate perpetual license upgradability. If you can’t then I am happy with last version you can provide me with. After that I will leave my future options open.