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Advice on a PC Laptop

Anonymous
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I am getting ready to purchase a PC laptop and am considering the Dell Inspiron 9400 (E1705) and have a few questions and am hoping that someone can give me some insight.

There are two different graphic cards supposedly available. The 256MB ATI MOBILITYTM RADEON® x1400 HyperMemoryTM and the 256MB DDR NVIDIA® GeForceTM Go 7800. Any advice? I have seen reports in this forum on the 7800 GTX and assume that is the desktop card. According to ATI the x1400 is the latest and greatest for laptops but I did not find a third party report.

Is the hard drive speed critical for archicad? Standard is a 5400 RPM, but that can be upgraded to a 7200 RPM.

Processor speed is another question. I am looking at the Duo processor but am trying to get into this for as little as possible since my main work station is a Mac desktop. I can get the 1.66 Ghz Duo processor, upgraded video card and higher resolution screen (1900 x 1200) for just over $1200. I question if I should upgrade to the 1.83 machine for an additional $80.

Finally I am trying to decide on the RAM. There is both 533 and 667 Mhz RAM available. What sort of performance difference am I looking at between these? In addition I was hoping that I could get by w/ 1 GB. Does anyone know if I purchase the laptop w/ the standard 512 MB and add 1 GB if there is space enough to keep the 512 and have 1.5 GB?

Thanks for any advice you can give me.
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Laszlo Nagy
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Mike wrote:
I am getting ready to purchase a PC laptop and am considering the Dell Inspiron 9400 (E1705) and have a few questions and am hoping that someone can give me some insight.

There are two different graphic cards supposedly available. The 256MB ATI MOBILITYTM RADEON® x1400 HyperMemoryTM and the 256MB DDR NVIDIA® GeForceTM Go 7800. Any advice? I have seen reports in this forum on the 7800 GTX and assume that is the desktop card. According to ATI the x1400 is the latest and greatest for laptops but I did not find a third party report.

Is the hard drive speed critical for archicad? Standard is a 5400 RPM, but that can be upgraded to a 7200 RPM.

Processor speed is another question. I am looking at the Duo processor but am trying to get into this for as little as possible since my main work station is a Mac desktop. I can get the 1.66 Ghz Duo processor, upgraded video card and higher resolution screen (1900 x 1200) for just over $1200. I question if I should upgrade to the 1.83 machine for an additional $80.

Finally I am trying to decide on the RAM. There is both 533 and 667 Mhz RAM available. What sort of performance difference am I looking at between these? In addition I was hoping that I could get by w/ 1 GB. Does anyone know if I purchase the laptop w/ the standard 512 MB and add 1 GB if there is space enough to keep the 512 and have 1.5 GB?

Thanks for any advice you can give me.
As a general rule, I would try to get the "mostest and bestest" I can afford. This includes 7200 rpm hard drive (considerably faster than 5400 rpm), higher resolution display, more and better RAM, faster CPU.

If I had to make priorities, my personal list would be:
1. Amount of RAM (I have 1GB but will get 2 GB soon)
2. Speed of processor
3. Performance of Graphics Card (although both cards you mention are incredibly fast - you can smoothly navigate in a fully modelled building several 100000 sqft in size)
4. Speed of Hard Drive
5. Resolution of Display (1600x1200 or something is alreadyd pretty good)
6. Speed of RAM (533 MHz is already pretty good)
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TomWaltz
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Mike wrote:
Is the hard drive speed critical for archicad? Standard is a 5400 RPM, but that can be upgraded to a 7200 RPM.

Processor speed is another question. I am looking at the Duo processor but am trying to get into this for as little as possible since my main work station is a Mac desktop. I can get the 1.66 Ghz Duo processor, upgraded video card and higher resolution screen (1900 x 1200) for just over $1200. I question if I should upgrade to the 1.83 machine for an additional $80.

Finally I am trying to decide on the RAM. There is both 533 and 667 Mhz RAM available. What sort of performance difference am I looking at between these? In addition I was hoping that I could get by w/ 1 GB. Does anyone know if I purchase the laptop w/ the standard 512 MB and add 1 GB if there is space enough to keep the 512 and have 1.5 GB?
Mike

if you can wait, I would.

Since you are already an Apple guy, the dual processor Mac Books are a lot of kick in a laptop. Once Archicad is released as a universal binary, you can take advantage of that power. The specs are similar to the Dell and lets you keep one consistant platform. If you can wait until the first "speed bump" in the Mac Books, you can probably get one a little cheaper than the current generation.

Having tried the PC/Mac combination for a while, I think the extra cash spent on staying consistant will be made up on the time you spend repointing libraries and other random stuff. It's just a question of whether you would rather spend the money up front or the time for the coming months.

Unless you are running large files or running major disk processes (like animation), I don't think drive speed is that big of a deal. I would spend the money on a bigger local drive instead of a faster one.

The RAM and processor speed really depends on how hard you want to push the machine. If this is just a presentation or work from home machine, it's probably not worth a lot of concern. If you plan on working a lot or pushing it hard, then it's worth the money.

To me, hardware expenditure is about saving time. If a faster item can save me hours ot regeneration time (RAM & processor) or zooming / navigation time (screen size & resolution), then I ballpark guess at how much.

Can a $100 upgrade save you two hours over the life of the machine? Maybe. Again, it circles back to what it's being used for.

For the rendering & animation work I do, the extra money on the Quad G5 made sense. For the GDL & training work I do, it would have been a waste.
Tom Waltz
Rakela Raul
Participant
what about screen ?? ultra bright, non glare ??
i have the dell inspiron 6000, 7200, 2gram and ultra bright, non glare..i love the lcd screen..check that out also..

how many usb ports?? 4 is good....2 for external hd , 1 for wibu, 1 x mouse
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Anonymous
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Rakela wrote:
how many usb ports?? 4 is good....2 for external hd , 1 for wibu, 1 x mouse
Isn't the number of USB Ports not as important since one can purchase a inexpensive USB Hub (1 x 4)?
Rakela Raul
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noooooo, disgusting....avoid stuff hunging from ur laptop
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Anonymous
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Thanks for all the advice. I would love to be buying a Mac, but am purchasing the PC for some of the training work I do. I hope in the next year or so that the new intel Macs will be able to run windows to fill that niche.
Anonymous
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Rakela wrote:
noooooo, disgusting....avoid stuff hunging from ur laptop
Like an External HD and a Mouse....?
Rakela Raul
Participant
shut, i thought u were buying a laptop......usb comment is ok...but the new monitor will have usb anyway sorry jay,,,i was thinking laptop
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TomWaltz
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Mike wrote:
Thanks for all the advice. I would love to be buying a Mac, but am purchasing the PC for some of the training work I do. I hope in the next year or so that the new intel Macs will be able to run windows to fill that niche.
I really doubt that will happen since Vista will not boot with EFI (which the Intel Macs use)
Tom Waltz