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Ambiguous Origins

drh64
Contributor
What is the procedure to deal with objects that have 'ambiguous origins'.

Thanks,
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Erich
Booster
What do you mean by "ambiguous origins"?
Erich

AC 19 6006 & AC 20
Mac OS 10.11.5
15" Retina MacBook Pro 2.6
27" iMac Retina 5K
drh64
Contributor
See attached.
It shows up on the library manager...
Erich
Booster
I have never seen this before, but I am still on 12 so this may be a feature of the newer embedded library system.

At a glance the objects in question appear to be from AC 12. I would guess that has something to do with this. Perhaps someone working on AC 14 can confirm this. What does your library manager look like?
Erich

AC 19 6006 & AC 20
Mac OS 10.11.5
15" Retina MacBook Pro 2.6
27" iMac Retina 5K
Erika Epstein
Booster
From AC14 help:
Objects of Ambiguous Origin
An object in this category has been placed in the project, but duplicates of this object (that is, objects with the same ID as the placed object, though they may be named differently) exist in at least two linked libraries. ArchiCAD randomly uses one or the other source for the object’s placed instances.

To avoid this situation, you should replace the placed instances with one of the duplicate objects from the loaded libraries.
(To do this, you can use Find & Select to locate the placed instances of the ambiguous object. Then choose a library object from the loaded libraries to replace the ambiguous object.)
Erika
Architect, Consultant
MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Yosemite 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Mac OSX 10.11.1
AC5-18
Onuma System

"Implementing Successful Building Information Modeling"
ztaskai
Graphisoft Alumni
Graphisoft Alumni
Aaaand what is not said in the help: get rid of the duplicates in the loaded libraries in the first place. You won't have any ambiguous situations after that!

Regs,
Zsolt Táskai
ArchiCAD Development - GDL Team
AC13, AC14 and upwards...
Erika Epstein
Booster
ztaskai wrote:
Aaaand what is not said in the help: get rid of the duplicates in the loaded libraries in the first place. You won't have any ambiguous situations after that!

Regs,
Thanks Zsolt, I hope they add your tip to the AC Help.
Erika
Architect, Consultant
MacBook Pro Retina, 15-inch Yosemite 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Mac OSX 10.11.1
AC5-18
Onuma System

"Implementing Successful Building Information Modeling"
Anonymous
Not applicable
Curious if there is a way to find out which objects are "placeable duplicated objects" within a loaded library. There is no detail in the information dbx about which objects are duplicates