Because i hate Plotmaker!!!

[Anonymous]

As the title say because i don't like PM i made this gdl object to help me print from AC
This object is like a paper in the floor plan
You select a default paper size (A0 A1 A2 A3 A4) or the custom (you can then type your own paper size) choose the print scale, the margins of the paper and the pen of the frame.
Use the marque tool to choose the outer frame or the inner frame and print
(if your printer already have margins you better choose the inner frame)
You can also use it just to see what kind of paper you will need depending on the print scale
Hope some people like to use it, so here it is
Feel free to change the object

[Rakela Raul]

Editing in PM is nice for little tweaks, but I would never recommend it for serious production

i use pmk's only...and i already learned a terrible lesson...never edit pmks!!! just go to ac, edit what u need to edit and publish again...no problems

[Barry Kelly]

Rakela wrote:
i use pmk's only...and i already learned a terrible lesson...never edit pmks!!! just go to ac, edit what u need to edit and publish again...no problems

I agree 110%.
Never edit in plotmaker.
Anytime that you re-publish from Archicad you will need to go and make all those changes again in Plotmaker.
But if you fix it up in Archicad and then re-publish all is perfect.

I prefer the PMK approach rather than linking the PLN directly seeing as this is what I have always been used to since version 6.5 and I don't like the problems I keep hearing about Background Archicad.
One day I might try linking the PLN though.

Barry.

[Anonymous]

Tom Waltz wrote:
'Trust me, I've got 25 people here doing it all day long'

Tom I've got 6 people who are very fed up, because there is no concensus on the best way to link views into Plotmaker! Every time somebody new starts in our office, I am uncertain what to tell them. Especially when BC Archicad reports an error. Typically the reaction is disbelief! ("But it's so easy in Autocad!")

Miker wrote:
'..and if it's true what they say about PM in AC10 (it's going to be all in one)...I'll wait until then.

Sounds good - anybody know when AC10 is coming out?
Miker - have at look at the thread 'Is plotmaker worth all of this trouble?' under 'Working in Archicad' (last contribution Jan 03). I suggested (slightly tongue in cheek) plotting directly from Archicad. Interesting that you do this - I'm going to try your clever object - if only to anticipate the 'fit' in plotmaker.

Djorde wrote:
'I am really tired of complaints about far from perfect Plotmaker'

Hmm ... doesn't that tell you something?

[TomWaltz]

Keith wrote:
Tom Waltz wrote:
'Trust me, I've got 25 people here doing it all day long'

Tom I've got 6 people who are very fed up, because there is no concensus on the best way to link views into Plotmaker! Every time somebody new starts in our office, I am uncertain what to tell them. Especially when BC Archicad reports an error. Typically the reaction is disbelief! ("But it's so easy in Autocad!")

That was the biggest reason I decided on PMKs. They are reliable and precise, but annoying and more complex, but . I'd rather have that than BGArchicad, which is simple, but blunt, annoying, slow, and unreliable.

I just had a user quit and go to an AutoCAD company. It's only been 3 days, and she called to tell me how much she missed Plotmaker....

[Anonymous]

Keith wrote:
Tom Waltz wrote:
'Trust me, I've got 25 people here doing it all day long'

Every time somebody new starts in our office, I am uncertain what to tell them. Especially when BC Archicad reports an error. Typically the reaction is disbelief! ("But it's so easy in Autocad!")

well, in 6 months when I move to Glasgow permanently (and you hire me of course ) I'll teach you how to set up views and properly use PlotMaker, now that I've come to be quite proficient with it (even though we shared a rant session about it back in October )

cheers,
Daniel

[Anonymous]

Hey, Daniel. I've been ranting a whole lot more since then!

[Djordje]

Keith wrote:
Especially when BC Archicad reports an error. Typically the reaction is disbelief! ("But it's so easy in Autocad!")

What is easy? The same functionality does not exist in AutoCAD. Or maybe I am not aware that autonumbering, cross referencing, autotext, etc came about in 2006? Creating PaperSpace viewports is a manual process, that has no relevance.

Keith wrote:
Djorde wrote:
'I am really tired of complaints about far from perfect Plotmaker'

Hmm ... doesn't that tell you something?

Nonono ... this is pulling the quote from the context. Quote the whole sentence, the meaning is quite different, being:

Althought PlotMaker is far from perfect, not bothering to learn it does not entitle you to complain.

[Anonymous]

So the conclusion is
1-Do all the edit work in AC
2-Publish PMK's
3-Import those PMK's in PM
4-DON'T TOUCH THE PMK'S IN PM
Am i right???

[Rakela Raul]

you got it.....IMHO

[Djordje]

miker wrote:
So the conclusion is
1-Do all the edit work in AC
2-Publish PMK's
3-Import those PMK's in PM
4-DON'T TOUCH THE PMK'S IN PM
Am i right???

Yep.

Though you should concentrate on linking live views as opposed to PMKs, if you want to be abreast of the development.

The editing work in PlotMaker is on the Master template.