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Colorbond panel fence created with editing a preset railing in Australia

mthd
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Hi there, has anyone in Australia successfully created colorbond fencing with an edit of a preset railing ? I don’t need a high level of detail except to show the metal sheet profile in the panel settings. How do I get a colorbond panel to show up in my railing panel setting ? A standard Bunnings fence kit with inserts is what I am trying to model up. 

 

I do have “CI tools Coverings” installed so I might just draw a standard railing with a few edits and just clad the rail or even draw a wall and just add the colorbond profile to it ? If you have a better method please reply.

 

Please see the PDF below for a picture of what I am trying to model.

 

Thank you.

 

https://www.steeline.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Panel-Fencing-Installation-Guide-Stee495_Prod...

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As far as I know, railings can not taper in height.

They can rake, but the top and bottom rails will always be parallel.

 

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Most fence profiles will be vertical, so I would create a complex profile column for the sheeting.

Then you can place as you like and even rake the top angle.

 

BarryKelly_0-1707457335468.png

 

 

You could even create one for an entire fence panel - 3 sheets and a post at one end.

And others if you have different standard panel lengths (2 sheets, 4 sheets).

And a separate column profile for just the post (so you can finish the fence off).

Or keep the post profile separate so you can extend them into the ground.

 

Then if you had the situation where you need a custom length, you can create a new profile for just that panel length.

 

Now just place them next to each other to build your fence.

 

If you want to get more detailed, you can add top and bottom beams for the capping.

 

Barry.

 

 

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I actually used a column for the sheets in the first place. That saved me having to rotate a converted morph in 3D, that I couldn’t figure out how to do lol.

So I can actually rake the top in 3D as shown in your pictures above or must it be converted to a morph first ?

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@mthd wrote:

So I can actually rake the top in 3D as shown in your pictures above or must it be converted to a morph first ?


You can adjust the top angle of a column with the pet palette (as in my image).

Just make sure your column complex profile has the length in the Y-axis, as that is the axis the top/bottom column angles work in.

 

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I did create a second profile in the “Y” axis but to use with a beam instead, just in case I could apply that particular complex profile to a tapered beam. That didn't work.

 

Thank you for that tip above I will give it a go and see what happens.

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Complex profile beams (and columns) can not taper, as it would affect the profile.

Only rectangular and circular beams can taper.

 

Tapering is not the same as changing the angle at the ends, which is effectively just a cut.

 

Solid Element Operations could also be used to taper the top of a fence, but you will need a roof in a hidden layer.

 

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Hey @Barry Kelly, I saw an official video on AC23 about segmented beams and saw that a tapered section of the beam had a complex profile applied to it. (Universal Beam Profile). That must be a special case with those hot rolled sections and they do have stretch modifiers in them as well.

 

Here is the video, watch from about 7min into the demonstration.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_AcwwUYkwQ

 

That’s why I thought I would give it try and see what happens.

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Lingwisyer
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CP Beam would not work as the extrusion is in the wrong axis? And yeah, the taper function of Segmented Beams just uses the stretch modifier so it will work fine for anything with a horizontal extrusion given a suitable stretch zone.

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As Ling mentioned, the complex profile must have profile modifiers.

Then they can be tapered by adjusting the modifier settings.

For a profile for sheet metal, I can't see this working.

 

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mthd
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The logic is fine and intended for portal frames used in industrial applications and anyone who wants that look in their homes.

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