Cut and Paste

[Tom Krowka]

When I cut and paste in elevations, and in plan, the new entity has been exploded, and is all lines. Is there any way to overcome this? Is this the way cut and paste is supposed to work? Is there any other way to copy in elevations while keeping objects whole?

For example, copied a column and a shutter in elevatio; both were objects from the library. After copied, a bunch of little lines.

[__archiben]

Tom wrote:
When I cut and paste in elevations, and in plan, the new entity has been exploded, and is all lines. Is there any way to overcome this? Is this the way cut and paste is supposed to work? Is there any other way to copy in elevations while keeping objects whole?

tom

this is indeed the way cut and paste is supposed to work in the section/elevation windows.

try duplicating and placing elements in the 3D window: all OK there!

you said that this was happening "in plan" too? this shouldn't be the case. more info?

~/archiben

[Djordje]

Tom,

Tom wrote:
When I cut and paste in elevations, and in plan, the new entity has been exploded, and is all lines. Is there any way to overcome this? Is this the way cut and paste is supposed to work? Is there any other way to copy in elevations while keeping objects whole?

For example, copied a column and a shutter in elevatio; both were objects from the library. After copied, a bunch of little lines.

S/E is a snapshot of the model. Work in 3D window, model fully, otherwise you are forfeiting the advantages of the Virtual Building concept. Columns and shutters belong to the model. If you forgot a shutter on one of the windows, for example, use the eyedropper and syringe to transfer the settings from a window that has it (can be done in S/E too)

If you are copying from the S/E to the plan, the pasted stuff is lines.

What is it exactly that you want to do?

[Tom Krowka]

Everything in S/E is not lines, isn't that correct? I mean I can select a railing for ex., then go to the attributes and change it's length. So that can't be only lines.

Is it only lines after you cut and paste. It just seems to me that it can't be a snapshot of the model if you can adjust the model through the elevation.

I notice that I can change objects, but I can't copy them. It's taking me a while to understand all the ways this program works.

Tom

[__archiben]

Tom wrote:
Everything in S/E is not lines, isn't that correct?

not exactly:

section elevation windows can consist of both 3D and 2D elements, but the rule is that you can't create 3D elements in a section/elevation window.

depending on your workflow methods, this is either a help or a hindrance. we use it as a feature at the point when the 3D building is 95-99% designed to drag a copy of the entire sec/elev snapshot up to the ordnance reference level to work up into full production information drawings . . . i know, not quite true 'virtual building', but we can't quite efficiently achieve the exact drawings we want with archiCAD yet - it's nearly there though!


HTH
~/archiben

[Tom Krowka]

Thanks.

That was the piece of information that puts everything into perspective.