Profile manager element update

[Tom Krowka]

Have created a wall element in profile manager. Have edited that wall element and saved. The old element that was originally placed will not update. Have rebuilt, regenerated, etc. both in plan and section. Will not update. Am I missing some other step?

thanks.

[Eduardo Rolon]

AFAIK complex profiles do not auto update you have to reapply the changed profile or I am missing something with your problem.

[Anonymous]

ejrolon wrote:
AFAIK complex profiles do not auto update you have to reapply the changed profile or I am missing something with your problem.

The profiles do update after editing though a rebuild may be necessary in 3D if it is active at the time (I don't remember for sure).

I'm not sure I understand your problem either Tom. Are you creating a profile, placing an instance then changing and storing the profile?

Any change to an existing profile should update all existing instances, except for individual dimensional/stretch adjustments.

[Tom Krowka]

Here's what I'm doing. I have a project that was started in V12, then opened and am working in V14. Profile was created in V12. I opened the profile, then edited it while in V14. After editing aand saving, nothing happens. In V12, all the instances of the profile updated automatically to reflect the edited changed.

In V14, it appears I have to select all the original profiles while the editor is open, then "apply to selection". This can be a problem if the profile occurs on various stories.

I did notice that some of the original profiles changed to "custom" when selected on plan, rather than the name originally given. Don't know how that happened but would seem to be the root of the problem; if the names don't match, the profile obviously would not update. I wonder if it's a migration issue.

[JaredBanks]

Tom the problem is when you use 'apply to selection'. I was just helping a coworker earlier this week with the same problem. When you click 'apply to selection' the profile changes to custom (and thus delinks from the complex profile you've defined). If it's custom it won't update.

Change all your custom profiles back to named profiles. Then updating should work fine. And don't use 'apply to selection' unless you want a one-off, non-linked wall/beam/column with a custom profile.

Hope that makes sense.

[Tom Krowka]

Gotcha. I still don't know how they changed to custom; I didn't think I was "applying to selection" but as long as I know how it happened, I can avoid it.

Thanks for the heads up.

Tom

[Eduardo Rolon]

…and that is why mine have never autoupdated as all are set to custom.

I thought it was one of those 80% implemented features

[JaredBanks]

Tom,

I think in my coworker's case, she was selecting the custom profiles on the plan, then selecting the profile in the profile manager, updating, saving the profile, than clicking apply to selection. It was something super subtle and until I made her go through her standard procedure, saying everything out loud while I watched we couldn't figure out why it was happening to her.

Basically a bad habit she picked up elsewhere in AC that usually doesn't cause a problem, but did here.

[Tom Krowka]

My bad habit also......too bad the computer is never wrong. Darn, thought I could blame this one on AC for sure.

Tom.

[JaredBanks]

Someone in Graphisoft should go ahead and change the error messages that pop up so they always read "User Error! User Error!"

If only we could replace ourselves with robots, then BIM would finally arrive.