2008-05-09 09:47 AM
2008-05-27 11:10 AM
Bricklyne wrote:"Gestapo"...
Either way, the secrecy and the comical PR management is just basically atrocious, and will do nothing more than harm them eventually.
2008-05-27 11:33 AM
Thomas wrote:Not necessarily. Sometimes I will agree that it can be harmful. But if the company in question is in control of the information being disbursed and is indeed the one distributing the information, then they wouldn't have to worry about being harmed by unannounced products or information, in the first place. Such as, with the example I gave previously (Feversoft with Fryrender).
– Do you honestly think that a secrecy policy regarding unnannounced products has been harming other companies? Like Apple, for instance?
Thomas wrote:Um.....yes I would. Especially when it will help the reseller push more volume (sell more products) out of the door when the product is eventually released and especially when the information they are releasing has been permitted and sanctioned by the developer themselves. It's actually quite a common modern marketing strategy. How many times did you read about Mentalray being integrated into Revit, from resellers, long before they released Revit 2009? Or into AutoCAD the yaer before? Like I said before, if they manage and control the information being released, then none of all this other stuff would be an issue.
– Would you honestly say that it's common practice to let your resellers publicly distribute info about unannounced products?
2008-05-27 12:26 PM
2008-05-27 01:59 PM
2008-05-27 03:34 PM
Bricklyne wrote:The information about Archicad 12 is Graphisoft's intellectual property. Whether we like it or not, they do have the right to protect it. Try violating a non-disclosure with Microsoft sometime. You'll disappear off the planet.
....this is unbelievably ridiculous, to say the least. I'm surprised they haven't just gone ahead and deleted the entire thread - but maybe that's yet to come. Forcing the Finnish site to take down their web-page was an especially nice, cosa-nostrian, touch.
Someone before had mentioned something to do with Communist era gestapo-like mentality regarding this whole secrecy spiel
2008-05-27 04:18 PM
TomWaltz wrote:No so much, yet. My calendar says May 27.
What's interesting to me is that late May/early June was the release date for AC11. It seems to me like GS has some explaining to do about missing their "one year upgrade".
2008-05-27 04:30 PM
2008-05-27 04:37 PM
el.antuan wrote:Yes. May 27 is today
Wow! It's TODAY!
2008-05-27 07:40 PM
Thomas wrote:
I have numerous gripes with Graphisoft's marketing. But this isn't one of them!
I can inform you that (just like with Apple and others) features get tweaked, changed, revised, scrapped, and even sometimes added late in the development cycle. It would be simply foolish to allow speculative information contaminate the official channels before thecompleteand final feature set is fixed in detail. And that will happen very shortly before the official announcement is made.
I've seen this with several companies where I've had the privilege to participate in alpha or beta-testing of software. Graphisoft is no exception. If they did otherwise, they would just be accused of makingvaporware. That would be disastrous, I think, for a company that makes its living catering for professionals. They should not make promises they can't fulfill. That is paramount.
To be accused of to much secrecy is a breeze compared to losing client's confidence. We all know that! You too, I'd say.
stefan wrote:
Everyone that participates in the beta test signs a non-disclosure agreement.
If you agree, you don't spread news. If you don't agree, you don't sign and do something else. It's a simple agreement and it is widely used with commercial software development.
If Graphisoft decides not to spread news about features that are "under development", then they can do so. End users would be complaining if a beta-feature will not be available in the final version, wouldn't they?
Different people mentioned the "leaked" information to Graphisoft, including links to illegal downloads. And then GS can contact site owners to request removal of the content.
2008-05-27 08:26 PM