no "columns capital" can be done in archicad?

[Anonymous]

hi, guys. i fell disappointed with ac, i just try a little bit , and find out it not useful for structure guys. can not do columns pad footing, slab thicken panel(drop), nor capital of columns. nor folder-in slab. what are archicad guys doing here? there are always slab drop(fold-in) and columns capital in almost every building i ever see!

[TomWaltz]

Why can't you?

Or more to the point, what did you try that did not work?

[Eduardo Rolon]

Begin Sarcasm Alert:

tried Revit for a little while couldn't make a full set of construction documents,so it is disappointing
tried Maya for 5 minutes couldn't make a movie so it is bad
tried SketchUp, couldn't model the whole of the Empire State Building so it is worthless…

Lack of knowledge in how to use a tool does not means that the tool does not work, just that the user needs trainning.

[Anonymous]

i was thinking some people will make some constructive point like they found "columns capital" menu in ac ,etc. it turn out only some brainless guys make some garbage sarcism. which is same useless like ac and waste my time. it really piss me off.

[Anonymous]

As I read it, Tom was asking for more information so as to understand what it is you are trying to do, and then I'm sure he will offer exactly the answer you are looking for, because that is what he does.

Eduardo justified his comment with a "sarcasm alert", letting you know he is being humourous, and quite legitimately suggested some training might be a good idea.

Don't be offended by people's comments towards a "question" that is more scornfull than it is a call for help.

What sort of column capital are you trying to do? Ionic? Doric? Corinthian? What is wrong with a slab as a pad footing? What is a "folder-in" slab?

Give us some more clues to what you are having trouble with, and someone will be able to help.

Oh, and welcome to the Forum.

[Eduardo Rolon]

Thanks Stuart for the clear up,
Since I almost posted an answer that Djordje might have had to delete.

[Dwight]

What our new colleague illustrates is that many of us who are conversant with the software have sublimated many workarounds to replicate what a newbie might reasonably expect as a separate tool function or in the library as a simple object.

Please remember that many posters aren't having the english as their first language and when it seems that they are complaining, it is merely the bile of fear rising in their throat:

"Yikes. it's not as intuitive or easy as the reseller said! (Gulp of betrayal). He lied when he said I wouldn't need training."

[Djordje]

Dwight wrote:
"Yikes. it's not as intuitive or easy as the reseller said! (Gulp of betrayal). He lied when he said I wouldn't need training."

Well, he did.

[Anonymous]

well, finally, good to hear "s2art" asking about "what is capital". let us focus on technical item.you and me can not affort to spend time on something else in this ac forum."capital" and "slab drop panel" mean the same things. thickening a slab portion to resist the large shear force on slab. capital usually 45 degree upwards from top of columns. and fold-in slab means different elevation in 2 slab area so we should set transfer "beam" (fold-in) on the slabs's border. and all different style of footing. strip, pad, cassion, ...maybe ac only for architecture or people here all work in architectural area? but you still have to tell constrution guys how to do when you make archi detail. even i checked revit structure 2 , they only have slab drop , no columns capital, nor slab step.

[James Murray]

linmin9 wrote:
well, finally, good to hear "s2art" asking about "what is capital". let us focus on technical item.you and me can not affort to spend time on something else in this ac forum."capital" and "slab drop panel" mean the same things. thickening a slab portion to resist the large shear force on slab. capital usually 45 degree upwards from top of columns. and fold-in slab means different elevation in 2 slab area so we should set transfer "beam" (fold-in) on the slabs's border. and all different style of footing. strip, pad, cassion, ...maybe ac only for architecture or people here all work in architectural area? but you still have to tell constrution guys how to do when you make archi detail. even i checked revit structure 2 , they only have slab drop , no columns capital, nor slab step.

linmin9 wrote:
well, finally, good to hear "s2art" asking about "what is capital". let us focus on technical item.you and me can not affort to spend time on something else in this ac forum."capital" and "slab drop panel" mean the same things. thickening a slab portion to resist the large shear force on slab. capital usually 45 degree upwards from top of columns. and fold-in slab means different elevation in 2 slab area so we should set transfer "beam" (fold-in) on the slabs's border. and all different style of footing. strip, pad, cassion, ...maybe ac only for architecture or people here all work in architectural area? but you still have to tell constrution guys how to do when you make archi detail. even i checked revit structure 2 , they only have slab drop , no columns capital, nor slab step.

And it's good to see "linmin9" refrain from words like 'brainless' and 'garbage'.

Consider that you went right past Tom's constructive inquiry for more information to attack ejrolon's self-described sarcasm.

This is a professional forum. If you choose to conduct yourself in this way in it, you find that you are wasting only your own time, because you will be ignored. Not attacked, ignored.

To your question. The column tool is of somewhat limited ability. The details you describe all require objects IMO.

We would all like more parametric capability in the basic tools. In the meantime it takes training, practice, and workarounds. Any software can do anything, in the hands of a serious, capable user. One of the best resources for becoming capable is this forum, should you choose to use it that way.