Rebuild views

[Tom Krowka]

I have all my views set to manual rebuild. Is there any way I can rebuld all model s/e from model but using the view settings(especially layer combinations) instead of the model settings.

[TomWaltz]

Tom wrote:
Actually, it's worse than that. Eleven minutes, I just timed it.

Whoa!!! Is your model huge? Or your computer really slow? Are your interiors turned off?

It seems to me there's something more to that problem. I have 14-story x 400' buildings that do not take that long.

[Tom Krowka]

Not that big. Three stories, 9000 s.f. per story. I do have six different modules within it. The modules are in the project specific library. I wonder if that might have anything to do with it. I took the landscaping out, which reduced time to (gasp) only eight minutes.

[Link]

Have you hidden everything but the shell of the building? Is all the interior stuff turned off?

Anyway back to your problem..

I've also tried to verify through experimentation that updating views on the layout will automatically update manual rebuild views to show all the most current work on the layouts. Even though the views are still set to manual rebuild. That would bypass rebuilding each view separately.
It seems to work like that but can't be 100% sure.

I don't think this is the case mate. They are separate deals. You will have to manually rebuild the Manual-Rebuild S/E's and then update the Drawings. They are two completely different tools with different updates.

You can obviously use the View > Refresh > Rebuild Sections/Elevations > Rebuild All Model S/E's from Model command to update all the S/E's. And then you can use the Drawing Manager to update all the Drawings.

I don't think there's much more to it. Of course if you had Autorebuild Model S/E's and Auto Update drawings, it would be much smoother!

Cheers,
Link.

[Anonymous]

Are you calculating shadows in you S/E? What about vectorial hatching? If you are you can turn these off and only turn them back on when you are ready for output. Another thing I have done at times is disconnect these fills and shadows so I only need to re-do the process if there are major changes (only is good when the project is fairly stable).

The whole section elevation rebuild thing drives me crazy as well. Especially how you can have just gone to a section elevation window, it has re-built, and then go to the layout sheet where it is placed and archicad needs to re-build it once more. In these days of dual and quad processors I would think some of our power could be used in the back ground continuously re-building these drawings so we avoid this lag.

[Tom Krowka]

Link:

You can obviously use the View > Refresh > Rebuild Sections/Elevations > Rebuild All Model S/E's from Model command to update all the S/E's. And then you can use the Drawing Manager to update all the Drawings

.


Thought that process was easy and obvious. too. However, the rest of the problem is that the command you noted above does not appear to use the view layer combo settings. Unless I have some other setting wrong.
It uses the settings that the current floor plan has. So bunches of things don't get rebuilt if the layer combos are different in the elevation view from the floor plan.

IMHO that is a major major problem. What that means is that I have to sit at the computer, open each view separately and rebuild it to get the right layer combo to display. Then update on the layouts. Am looking for something that will allow me to update all the views at once, automatically, to their saved layer combination.

Something is not right here.

[__archiben]

Tom wrote:
Am looking for something that will allow me to update all the views at once, automatically, to their saved layer combination.

as i said - in one of your topics talking about this - switch all of your manual-rebuild sect/elevs to 'automatic', open the drawing manager and select the placed views you want to update, and hit the update button.

switch the sect/elevs back to manual-rebuild once you've finished. you can use the 'selections' palette to help you manage the correct sect/elev selections to switch back.

Something is not right here.

you're right, it's not. the problem is the update time - GS haven't considered the time-loss involved with working in automatically rebuilding viewpoints. but unfortunately, the option above is the best i can come up with to combat it.

~/archiben

[Tom Krowka]

I'm going to try it out on Monday. IMHO, that's a back door way to do it, but if it works, I'm there. It seems to me that autorebuild and manual rebuild have different sets of rules they operate by..

Will try to get past this issue and write about how great AC really is.

Thanks.

Tom

[__archiben]

Tom wrote:
It seems to me that autorebuild and manual rebuild have different sets of rules they operate by..

it is a kind of workaround, but of course autorebuild and manual rebuild have different sets of rules they operate by! one automatically rebuilds the window and the other expects YOU to update the window. the auto/manual rebuild commands are doing just fine - it's just you that hasn't understood the process properly. a viewpoint can have multiple views attached to it - how the hell is archicad supposed to know which one you want to update when you manual rebuild without first specifying those view settings?!

try seeing the auto/manual rebuild commands as working commands, NOT view/layout commands.

what's missing is a command that allows you to select multiple views and 'rebuild selected views'.

~/archiben

[Djordje]

~/archiben wrote:
what's missing is a command that allows you to select multiple views and 'rebuild selected views'.

If placed on the layout, you can - in the Drawing manager, as you rightly mentioned. Select the views, hit Update.

Whooops ... REBUILD ... then in the Navigator, select the views, open them ... have lunch ... (yes, this is the problem!) ... update in layout.

[Tom Krowka]

Djordie:

Sort of confused by your reply here.

Whooops ... REBUILD ... then in the Navigator, select the views, open them ... have lunch ... (yes, this is the problem!) ... update in layout.

Let me see if I understand the process. I have a bunch of views I want to update that are placed on the layout but the views have not been individually updated. So then I...

go to navigator
select the views I want to update
rebuild
have lunch while they rebuild
then select the views in the drawing manager, then hit update.

I have tried that, but the views update with the incorrect layer combinations. They update based on the layer combinations of the last open window.....unless I'm doing something way wrong.