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Windows Vista

Anonymous
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I'm looking for somebody working with Windows Vista ...
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Anonymous
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IF you were to defend GS, don't defend them from ME!

Remember: I WAS and to some extent will forever remain "one of them", to simplify the statement: they are my buddies:)

In real world you don't control expectations of the client (you can influence somewhat)

A few things I've learned from clients:

-generally expected when buying the latest good price/performance machine you do NOT have to update ALL existing (microsoft, adobe, macromedia, intuit, autodesk) software licenses- especially the relatively expensive upgrades

-ArchiCAD being most essential to the practice is little closest to the "kept up to date", you barely find people working in 7.0 or older while in the autocad bell curve you will even find R14, and just recently the 2000 starts to be on the left side of the adaption curve.

-even 4.0 projects are being pulled out of the archive, dusted off and expected to be worked on it, so sometimes you need to pull out your trusty 7.0 and move the project to the "modern world".

-legacy projects will have a mixture of 5.0, 6.5 7.0, 8.1 library parts, reflecting work done on them, and some of those library parts sneak in into later projects. Like geological layers in the grand canyon you will see them when you try to bring back an old project to life.

This gives consultants and geeks billable hours, but it works again the mainstream expectations- mainstream adoption.
Karl Ottenstein
Moderator Emeritus
Hi Ferenc,

Nice to 'see' you here again.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned: Microsoft Virtual PC is now "free":
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

and lets you run XP or whatever on top of Vista in order to run legacy applications. Maybe this can help.

Cheers,
Karl
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Djordje
Moderator Emeritus
Ferenc wrote:
In real world you don't control expectations of the client (you can influence somewhat)
Good to see you again ... great avatar too!

I am personally staying on XP until further notice ... and hoping that the budget for the MacBookPro will somehow materialize 😉
Djordje



ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
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Anonymous
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good to hear from you guys too!

Virtualpc sez:

Host operating system: Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, Windows Vista Ultimate, Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition, Windows Server 2003 Standard x64 Edition, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Tablet PC Edition

Fry's, best buy, office depot, etc. cr...p comes with XP Home, Vista Home Premium.

If ArchiCAD 10 will be crashing too, the next cost effective thing is to return the machine to Fry's and either have them install XP or exchange for a new box with XP on it.
TomWaltz
Participant
I'd stay on XP for now, since AC9 and AC10 are not supported on Vista, with no plans to be. Once they are ready to get AC11, it might make sense to get Leopard.. uh... I mean... Vista.
Tom Waltz
Anonymous
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today "only" one crash, although pretty cautious use: only one at a time (archicad OR plotmaker), so emergency measures are postponed for the time being.

I wonder if we can actually FIND someone who uses Vista and 9 or 10.

the application and project loading as well as the 3d conversion and OpenGL performance is pretty impressive.

other than the obvious waste of time (haggling w/ fry's, packing up the box, waiting for it to be ready, license and labor, ...), the developer in me is curious about WHAT actually is incompatible with Vista? dialog manager? memory handling? file manager? an API that is not implemented?

we'll keep you posted...