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CineRender Alternatives

toman311
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Hey everyone,

To do renders at my office, we currently use CineRender in ArchiCAD. I'm quite happy with the quality of the renders, but to do the renders, we have to do them in ArchiCAD. The problem with this is that the renders lock up the computer so that nobody else can work on it. This process time length varies, but the recent render we did took almost 3 hours. No one at the office can sit around for 3 hours (for obvious reasons), so we work around this by starting the render before one of us leaves and when we come back in the morning, the render is done. This process is okay, but we would like to do renders more liberally so we don't have to push doing photoshop adjustments all the way to the next day. Plus, that's if the render turned out okay.

So, I have been exploring alternatives. I figured we could export to Sketchup and use one of Sketchup's rendering software. I haven't gotten it to work with Kerkythea because of an error message.
We don't want to spend a lot of money on the render engine, yet we obviously want good renders too. We also don't want to spend money on a new ArchiCAD license, which would be dedicated to rendering only. That doesn't make sense either.

So, my question is...
Does anyone have any other ideas for work arounds from having to run rendering through ArchiCAD? That way someone can work and render on the same computer. Or, does anyone have any suggestions for good quality, yet reasonably priced Sketchup rendering engines?
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Anonymous
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Sorry, new forum format is not displaying signatures on mobile, maybe a setting I need to change.
Scott
Barry Kelly
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sboydturner wrote:
Sorry, new forum format is not displaying signatures on mobile, maybe a setting I need to change.
Scott
No problem.
I have never really noticed but you are correct.
I just checked my settings and it says that it should be displaying signatures.
But I guess that is just a setting for the forum and that the mobile version just doesn't show the signatures for some reason.

It does show if you tap on the poster's profile though.
We just have to remember to do that.

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It does not show Signatures on mobile for me either.
I have let the developers know about this. We will see if this is a feature of the phpbb forum software or something can be done about it.
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Laszlo Nagy
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I have received info about this from GS developers. I have posted it on the other topic dedicated to this question:
https://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=59510&p=278613#p278613
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KeesW
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Are people still using Atlantis? Wouldn’t that be faster than CineRender?
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Erwin Edel
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I've stopped using Artlantis since CineRender got added. I don't have first hand experience since version 4.5, however some of the things I've heard from others suggest that the speed has gone down a bit.

I'm quite happy with my current workflow with CineRender, however. Typical residential projects (700-2000 m³ gross volume) we do, have render times of under 3 minutes for the colour renders with output quality comparable or better than what I was doing in Artlantis. I would also say the library of surfaces in ArchiCAD surpasses what we had in Artlantis 4.5 and that was with several CD-ROMS with shaders we had bought.

What I have seen from Twinmotion is impressive stuff, though. Still, as I have said before: it is another bit of software to buy and keep up to date, so I am happy with CineRender filling that spot.

The workflow is a bit different, but I have written on some other topics how I go about creating fairly quick renders to fill our need for doing them in under 5-10 mins (including photoshop), since we typically push them out with every design change we show to the client.
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