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AC27 Slow Trace Reference on Worksheet

Harvey Fontanilla
Contributor

Hi. We are currently experiencing slow navigation (zooming, placing text, dimensions) when doing worksheets. Our typical workflow is:

For Blow-up Plans (Toilet Details, other details with larger scale than our plans and will only require a portion of the plan):

After placing the blow-up views, we trace the layout on a separate worksheet then from there, we place our dimensions. This Worksheet will now be placed on top of the Traced Layout so we can have a separate view showing only text, tags and dimensions instead of placing it on the model space.

Since Archicad 27, we cannot do this anymore efficiently due to the "short" stops. Even when panning or selecting text when using worksheet with trace reference, this happens. Worksheets with Trace Reference becomes so slow.

 

We did not encounter this on all the previous versions we had since AC18. Do you guys know a quick solution for this or had encountered this?

 

Thank you!

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Hey,
Thanks for workaround. 
It look like it work with the update.

no. It is still bloody slow. 

MarkT
Contributor

Make sure the trace reference has the same layer group origin and there will be no issue. eg trace reference the current view and you will see no lag. It's only when tracing a plan with a different layer set or a layout book sheet that the lag becomes evident.

AC 3.14 (1990) to 27 (2024)
PC : i7 7700k @ 4.2GHz - 32GB - W10/64

really? is this a proper solution? I need to trace dwg from colleagues, typically situation plans. and its slow. 

Tracing a PDF or DWG (assuming that is what you mean) should not give you lag if you place the imported document on a layer that is always ON. e.g. Place the PDF to one side on the ArchiCAD layer. Trace reference the view you are already in, then drag the reference under the area you want to trace. You should not experience any lag with this method. This isn't a solution, its trace reference 101 🙂

AC 3.14 (1990) to 27 (2024)
PC : i7 7700k @ 4.2GHz - 32GB - W10/64

Also, make sure you are running the latest update. I haven't really had any issues for awhile. Oh & turn off any 2D trace reference elements you don't need to see, like text.

AC 3.14 (1990) to 27 (2024)
PC : i7 7700k @ 4.2GHz - 32GB - W10/64

Minute ago i tried again project I am working on at the moment. Larger site plan dwg reference is still laggy. Even if I minimize visible area. Its a landscape project, so i need larger area to be modelled.

My 32 GB ram is not too much, but i think it still should be sufficient for this. And yes, there are texts - geodetic heights in site plan and i need this information to be seen. Simple line dwg works well. But we architects / engineers need to work with complex siteplans full of informations on daily basis 🙂 

bapFilter
Participant

It looks like this issue is still not solved in AC27 5060. It's really complicated to use trace in sections. Need to wait few minute after any zoom in or out.

It used to work very smoothly before in AC 26.

I have AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core, 64GB RAM and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti with to 4K 27" screens.

Are you importing the DWG via the "Attach Xref" function or with "external drawing"?

 

The first one will import thew dwg based on translator settings and will give all the options to manage the dwg.

It will import even photos or anything.

Have you tried that.?

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.
Martin5
Participant

A have same issue in 27 a now in 28 too. 26 was ok.
I have AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 8-Core, 32GB RAM.

Could this be an AMD processor issue?