PM: How do I show the page breaks?

[tsturm]

I want to see the page breaks in the PM layout book.

I am using the latest version of PM. 3.1 v2. I have the Display Options set to show Page Breaks and Overlappings. All I see on the layout page is hte blue bounding box of my margins.

anyone else having this issue?

[David Larrew]

Is the Layout large enough to require multiple pages? If not, you will not see the page breaks until PM breaks the Layout up into multiple sheets.

[Laszlo Nagy]

You have to set the Master Layout to consist of several pages. Uncheck the Set Layout Size equal to Usable Print Area checkbox, and then you can define how many pages by how many pages the Master Layout should consist of.
Then you will have the page break lines showing on the Layout using that Master Layout as well.
Laszlo

[Anonymous]

I have this problem all the time, the master layout has page breaks option turned on, we set up the layout for the printer and no breaks are apparant.

Then when I'm printing, under print options the Layout Size shows 2 pages. To fit the drawing onto one, you have assign one of the shrink options. This can be dangerous when people start scaling off the prints on site!

We've also checked that they're are no objects off the print area, but this particular issue keeps on occcurong. What am I doing wrong, trust that they'res an easy solution.

This seems to behave the same under Mac OS X.3 and Windows XP.

Thanks

[Djordje]

Pete wrote:
Then when I'm printing, under print options the Layout Size shows 2 pages. To fit the drawing onto one, you have assign one of the shrink options. This can be dangerous when people start scaling off the prints on site!

You only have to define your Masters with the device margins, and always use device margins when printing. In any other case, you have to scale down. Be sure to define the master for the device you are printing it on.

[tsturm]

Not really going to the point of my question.

Lazlo started to get there by stating you have to change a setting in the Master setup to get page breaks to show up.

However Lazlo, what I should be seeing on my 24x36 (arch D) page which has been programmed for our HP designjet 800 page of Arch D, but since my layout book also has two other page setups so that I can place the same graphics on other page sizes such as 11x17 and 8x11 is page breaks when the current Page Setup is set for 8x11.

Here is the problem more defined. I have three master pages. Each one is defined for a different piece of paper. 8x11, 11x17 and 24x36. Now when I want to print out the 8x11 sheets I need to change the Page Setup to 8x11. No problem here. The problem is when I open the layout book to print one of the 24x36 sheets and the file had been left to print on 8x11 I do not see any page breaks on the 24x36 layout to tell me the current page setup is set for 8x11.

This is what I am looking for.

Is anyone else using the Layout Book for different page sizes?

[Laszlo Nagy]

Could you post a screen capture of how it is and what you would like to achieve?
Laszlo

[David Maudlin]

Here is the problem more defined. I have three master pages. Each one is defined for a different piece of paper. 8x11, 11x17 and 24x36. Now when I want to print out the 8x11 sheets I need to change the Page Setup to 8x11. No problem here. The problem is when I open the layout book to print one of the 24x36 sheets and the file had been left to print on 8x11 I do not see any page breaks on the 24x36 layout to tell me the current page setup is set for 8x11.

This is what I am looking for.

Is anyone else using the Layout Book for different page sizes?

Each master sheet has its own printer/plotter settings. In order to see the page breaks for 8x11 pages on your 24x36 sheet you need to open the Master for the 24x36 sheet and set its page size to 8x11, uncheck "Set Layout Size to Usable Print Area" and set the number of pages you need for the layout at the bottom of this dialog box. Hope this is what you are looking for.

David

[Laszlo Nagy]

I got it.
I think that each Master Layout has its own setting for the printer/plotter. So when you use that, it will override what is set in Page Setup with what is set in the Master Layout settings Dialog. This is why there are no page break lines because it is not that page size.
Is this possible?
Laszlo

[Anonymous]

laszlonagy wrote:
I got it.
I think that each Master Layout has its own setting for the printer/plotter. So when you use that, it will override what is set in Page Setup with what is set in the Master Layout settings Dialog. This is why there are no page break lines because it is not that page size.
Is this possible?
Laszlo

I don't think you are correct about each Master having its own print/plot settings (it could be a nice idea though). I just plotted a layout book with different sized sheets and had to redo the plot settings for each sheet size. I believe this is also true for printing.

You can set different plot/print settings for each item in a publisher set though. I think it's even possible to direct prints and plots at different sizes to different printers from the same set (I'll have to try this to make sure).

Regarding the original question:

The page breaks (as you have noticed) are no longer displayed in the layout as they were in PM2 (perhaps this is a wish list item). In order to see them now you need to click the Plot Options or Print Options buttons in the plot or print dialogs. This button is immediately visible in the plot dialog but is buried in the Plotmaker Settings pane (pop-up menu on Mac - I forget now the PC details) in the print dialog.

In this buried but important dialog you will find the choices that we used to dream of in PM2 and earlier (especially in Windows) like the ability to scale to fit etc. Here you will see a preview of how the layout will fit to the current page size according to your scaling preferences. Note that if you are printing sheets of a variety of sizes that this preview will be replaced by words to that effect.

I hope this is clear enough.