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Place objects with random scale and rotation

JohnJay
Expert
Is there a quick and easy way to place - say - a tree and with each click define a random rotation and scale, within given parameters (e.g. random rotation 0 - 360 degrees, scale +/- 30%)?
AC27 | i7990x | RTX4070 | W10
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Podolsky
Ace
You can choose random rotation in multiply command dialogue, but I'm not sure you can randomise scale.
JohnJay
Expert
Have tried that option before but it's not very useful (to me).

A couple of ideal solutions would be:

Quickly define specific parameters - something like in ZBrush, where you click to define the position, then drag to define size, then drag again to define rotation

Random - activate a 'Random' mode (similar to activating a Relative Construction Method) and specify deviation parameters for Rotation, Scale and Translation
AC27 | i7990x | RTX4070 | W10
Anonymous
Not applicable
JohnJay wrote:
Is there a quick and easy way to place - say - a tree and with each click define a random rotation and scale, within given parameters (e.g. random rotation 0 - 360 degrees, scale +/- 30%)?
I gave PARAM-O a try and it looks like it is doing the trick.
Open the gsm file inside PARAM-O and change it to your desired Tree object.
Hope that helps.

Erwin Edel
Rockstar
We use the library shown in this video:



There is a download link to google drive in the description.

It allows different methods of random distribution or scatter.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-26NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5
vdentello
Advocate
Erwin wrote:
We use the library shown in this video:



There is a download link to google drive in the description.

It allows different methods of random distribution or scatter.
This looks a lot like C4D cloner object. I loved it, i don't see why there's no standard tool that behaves live that.
Archicad User Since 2013
GDL Developer
Experimenting with API
from Brazil
JohnJay
Expert
Braza wrote:
I gave PARAM-O a try and it looks like it is doing the trick.
Open the gsm file inside PARAM-O and change it to your desired Tree object.
Hope that helps.

Random Tree.zip
Thanks I'll try this
AC27 | i7990x | RTX4070 | W10
JohnJay
Expert
Erwin wrote:
We use the library shown in this video:



There is a download link to google drive in the description.

It allows different methods of random distribution or scatter.
Thanks this looks fantastic

Are there any other gems like this that I should be aware of?

The presets are great too...

I wonder how many of these plants and trees can be added before AC starts to bog down?
AC27 | i7990x | RTX4070 | W10
Erwin Edel
Rockstar
AC handles it quite fine, but render times increase a lot if you place many trees. We tend to use them for a bit more minimalist look (see attached below).

For trees there are also archiradar libraries that create random trees every time you place one, as I recall.

Those are not free, but the price is very fair and I think you can get free updates.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-26NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5
JohnJay
Expert
Erwin wrote:
AC handles it quite fine, but render times increase a lot if you place many trees. We tend to use them for a bit more minimalist look (see attached below).

For trees there are also archiradar libraries that create random trees every time you place one, as I recall.

Those are not free, but the price is very fair and I think you can get free updates.
They look great for this type of work.

Thanks again and will check out Archiradar.
AC27 | i7990x | RTX4070 | W10