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AC10 No longer biased toward selected item?

Brad Elliott
Booster
I'm trying to get productive in AC10. I still can't believe they removed all the key commands for the tools. So now I get to put them back.

Anyway, One of the good things in 8 & 9 was that when you had an object selected it was the default item to be grabbed when you went to manipulate the object. Such as my slab that is aligned under my exterior wall. Now I'm having an extremely difficult time selecting the slab without it defaulting to and selecting the wall above. Is anyone else having this problem?
Mac OS12.6 AC26 USA Silicon
M1 Macbook Pro
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Anonymous
Not applicable
Just hit the tab key to filter through multiple objects.
Brad Elliott
Booster
Wrong process. I have a wall stacked on a slab. I have the slab selected and want to extend the edge. When I click to extend the edge of the slab the wall becomes selected. I can not tab out of that selection because i am attempting to perform an action. This method reminds me of the problems I had in 6.5 with its bias to objects above. In 8 & 9 if you had the object selected and went to perform an action it would bias toward acting on the selected object. Now every time I go to extend the slab it deselects and selects the wall. Not a helpful behavior.
Mac OS12.6 AC26 USA Silicon
M1 Macbook Pro
Anonymous
Not applicable
Brad, While I have only been using Archicad for about one year, when I perform the process you describe, as long as I select the slab under a wall and then hover over the edge (which is shared with the wall) and pause til I get a mercedes curser, I have no problem moving the edge or performing any other available operation.
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
I can't replicate this problem.

Can you confirm that your slab is selected (before you extend the edge)by looking at the info box and checking that the Slab tool is active and it says 'All Selected: 1'?

I know it sounds basic, but it's just good to be sure it's not a simple error first. I suspect the new pre-selection highlight feature (and info tag) vs. actual selection may trick more than a few people.

IMHO what you describe goes against all AC logic, so I doubt this is even an obscure setting somewhere.

Cheers,
Link.
TomWaltz
Participant
It also helps to have "Slab" as the active tool, not just a slab selected.
Tom Waltz
Brad Elliott
Booster
Link & Tom,
This is exactly my point. In 9 I can have the slab selected and be in any tool, slab tool, arrow tool, heck even the wall tool or dimension tool and edit the slab. This is a huge productivity boost to not have to be in the tool. Now having said that after restarting the program this morning I am easily grabbing and editing slabs with no trouble at all. This is after spending all day yesterday being forced to have the slab tool selected and still having a hard time making adjustments. Apparently a restart of the program fixed the problem. Now that I think of it I was working directly in a file freshly converted from 9. I guess from now on I will restart if I have any problems after a conversion. Thanks for the help.

Off topic, Tom, how do you like Elements 4? I have been thinking of upgrading from 2.
Link wrote:
Can you confirm that your slab is selected (before you extend the edge)by looking at the info box and checking that the Slab tool is active and it says 'All Selected: 1'?

I know it sounds basic, but it's just good to be sure it's not a simple error first. I suspect the new pre-selection highlight feature (and info tag) vs. actual selection may trick more than a few people.

IMHO what you describe goes against all AC logic, so I doubt this is even an obscure setting somewhere.

Cheers,
Link.
Mac OS12.6 AC26 USA Silicon
M1 Macbook Pro
TomWaltz
Participant
Brad wrote:
Off topic, Tom, how do you like Elements 4? I have been thinking of upgrading from 2.
I'm not sure I can really compare since I only have only really used Elements 4 (and not even full Photoshop), but most of the reviews I see say that it's the closest to full Photoshop yet and has some features the full version does not.
Tom Waltz
Djordje
Virtuoso
TomWaltz wrote:
It also helps to have "Slab" as the active tool, not just a slab selected.
This is probably it; the described happens if you are in the Arrow tool.
Djordje



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rengarch
Participant
I was having the same frustrations for an hour. With multiple elements on top of each other, have the Quick Selection button depressed, hover over the center of the stacking objects. Tab to view which object you want and click to select it. As you hover over the each to extend it, check the tracker box to be sure that you are hovering over the edge of the element you want, if not, tab until you see (select), click once at the edge and the pet pallette should appear. It takes a while to get the hang of it.
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