No Snap Points in Trace Reference in AC18

[Anonymous]

Hello,

Some time ago I had written a post about inactive snap points of windows/doors when overlapping a window/door from ground floor with a window/door from 1st floor using the Trace reference.(there would be no snapping points to fix the exact position for the windows/doors in the Trace Reference)

As nobody answered, I continued looking for the solution (it took me long time and many experiments, really)..Here is a print screen of one experiment I've done and this what I have found and if I am wrong, please correct me.
In a new project I've drawn 2 walls, which have the hight on 2 levels from ground floor up to the roof.On the first wall I placed randomly some windows. I then switched to the 1st floor and drawn some randomly windows on the 2nd wall. Then I tried to line up windows from the two walls using trace reference. Ironically, when the walls are set to be visible on all the storeys the snapping points would stop working in TRACE REFERENCE and when it is set to be visible only to home storey, the snapping points work properly...I did the same experiment in AC17 and there it works properly..

Maybe it is not such an important issue you would say... but it is really, really annoying for those who work with walls which have the heights of many storeys.

Am I the only one to have discovered this BUG ?
Hope to get some improvements from Graphisoft..such a shame..

[Laszlo Nagy]

I could reproduce this bug in AC18. It works in AC17 for me too.
I will report this to Graphisoft.

[Link]

Bug aside, this is easy to achieve in the 3D window. I think people tend to underestimate what they can do in 3D. Takes a shift in thinking...

Cheers,
Link.

[Anonymous]

I did use 3D to overlap windows/door, but being used to Trace Reference, it was important for me to find out that it just stoped working in Ac18, for variouse reasons.

However, thank you for your answers.
IC

[Anonymous]

I just discovered this. I'm working on a gut renovation and I'm putting new windows and doors into the exact location of the existing ones. So I'm trace referencing from a proposed plan to the existing plan. No snaps!

Working in 3D can't help you out here... can it?

I can think of many work arounds, but the easiest is to bring back snaps in trace.

[Steve Jepson]

I wish I had the time to investigate and document all of the situations where I am not getting a snap point when I think I should. Or when I have to take extra measures to get it, and also to get a lock on the direction I am trying to move something. Between these two things I am frustrated more than just a little.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Steve and others, please report any missing snap points you encounter in the future in this thread.

P.S.: I also modified the title of this thread so we know what topic it is about.

[Matt Balaam]

I've also reported a similar bug to Graphisoft regarding snap points in trace reference that may or may not be directly related to this bug.

If you have GDL objects that react to model view options and draw themselves with different hotspots in different situations the trace reference hotspots are loaded based on the MVO of the active view instead of the view being used as a trace reference.

Again we had no issue with the same objects in AC17.

Very frustrating to say the least!

[NCornia]

Hello,

Based on a direct email from Steven I thought I might add that this matter is set to be addressed in the next update for ArchiCAD 18 which is currently slated for March.

Best regards,

[Steve Jepson]

Here is another time when I can't select even the node.

I want to adjust the reference line for this little roof/cricket. I can not select he node to make it shorter. Possibly because the roof comes to a point along the reference line. ?

The fix is not so bad. I just have to shorten the reference line before I adjust the roof down to a point on the reference line edge. I it just a bit of a bother. I am working at the speed of reflex and have to break my flow to deal with it. I think the node should be adjustable or perhaps grayed out when it becomes unselectable.