Roof and rafter

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Can someone explain how to cut out the roof this hole? (the second roof section)
Eaves and roof at the ends do not come insulation, how to solve it?
Eaves end is this rafters like in picture. how it's made?
I hope anybody could understand what I thinking.

Best regards,
Jaano

[Anonymous]

nojaano wrote:
This area does not need insulation, how to resolve?

[Steve Jepson]

Use a different Composite for that part of the roof.
You could create a Complex Profile for the roof too if you like.

Personally, I think your barking up the wrong tree trying to model too many components at the same time. Model everything exactly like the actual materials.

[Barry Kelly]

As Steve suggested I would model the roof surface, rafters and ceiling as separate elements.
The insulation could be modelled as well or could just be a fill in your sections.

If you can't do it all at once, break it down into the components.
A good motto to remember is "model it as it is built" - you can't go to far wrong if you do that.

Barry.

[Steve Jepson]

Another reason to model roofs as individual components is for the sake of how fast you can get what you need for so many other parts out of that same roof. Ceilings, Rafters, Barge, Drip Edge, Fascia, Continuous Ridge Vent, Soffit, Garage Slab, Sidewalks, Subfloor, ... all by just tweaking a copy of a roof. The Roof has that Ctrl-Click function which I find so useful for all sorts of things.

[Erwin Edel]

Yep, as I posted earlier: just model with single plane roofs and merge everything to 'one roof'. It is still a lot single plane roofs, but in 3D, elevation, plan etc all fills are nicely merged, no extra linework where it shouldn't be and proper PBC with walls etc.

The multiplane roof is excellent for the sort of design you only see in tutorials, imho.

[Anonymous]

I got as I wanted, but something is wrong.
How do I get all these separate pieces into one connected?
As you can see is all lines see? and all the elements cant be cut as needed.
Video, image tutorial or reference, it would be better for me.
I marked a yellow lines of these places.

Thanks all!

[Gerald Hoffman]

What I do is make up your composite structures without the top sheathing element and then add just the top element as a separate roof plane to cover everything.

The reason I do this is that I use it to add a roof cladding and then I can adjust the overhang of the sheathing if necessary at eaves and gables.

Cheers,

[Steve Jepson]

Here is another tip for modeling that kind of attic space/bonus room.
The situation comes up where you may want to show the siding above the roof of the same wall that you want to have it show as drywall below the roof.
If you extend the roof sheathing into that wall to face of stud, you can use it to SEO the siding skin on that wall below the roof sheathing. There are several roofs in this section and composites for things like the ceiling with two layers of batt insulation at different thicknesses. That roof/composite merges fine with the sloped roof/ceiling composite with can also have vertical roof edge where the insulation ends down at the soffit.

[Barry Kelly]

nojaano wrote:
I got as I wanted, but something is wrong.
How do I get all these separate pieces into one connected?
As you can see is all lines see? and all the elements cant be cut as needed.
Video, image tutorial or reference, it would be better for me.
I marked a yellow lines of these places.

Thanks all!

Roofs (unlike other elements) will always show lines when joined end to end even when their surfaces match.

This is why I would model the roof cladding as a single roof.
Then if you are happy with a solid 'slab' for your roof timber then model that as another roof (I would either model the actual timbers - just enough for the actual section or cheat with line work in the section).
Model the insulation as another roof (or again line work in section).
The finally model the ceiling lining as another roof where needed.

So you will have roofs stacked above each other rather than side by side.

Use layers to hide them all in plan except for the very top roof cladding.

Barry.

[Steve Jepson]

nojaano wrote:
I got as I wanted, but something is wrong.
How do I get all these separate pieces into one connected?
As you can see is all lines see? and all the elements cant be cut as needed.
Video, image tutorial or reference, it would be better for me.
I marked a yellow lines of these places.

Thanks all!

I think the lines your seeing are temporary and have no effect on the output.

Are these those lines that you see or don't see if your using the scroll button on the mouse? 1 click for ward or back on the mouse scroll button makes lines visible or not visible. I am not sure if that is what those lines are or not.