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Timber Framers using Archicad?

Anonymous
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I am involved in residential design, specifically with timber framed houses. To clarify for the international members here, this means using timber larger than 6x6's (8x8, 8x10, 6x8 etc) and not 2x4's which seems to be the nomenclature outside of North America. I have googled and searched for examples of timber framers using Archicad but have found very little. I know that log home builders like Archicad (possibly because of ArchiLog). I presently use a combination of Autocad, SketchUp and Cadwork. Cadwork is an timber specific program (generates CNC code etc) but I don't really like it for the architectural development and presentation side.
My questions are-
1) Do any of you know of good examples of Archicad being used for timber design?
2) Is native Archicad the tool for timber design? I am aware of Framewright but this seems over kill for what I'm looking for. Objective looks quite useful but is it being supplanted by the morph tool?
3) I need an acis (sat) file at the end of my design process in order to bring the design into Cadwork. Is there an easy process from Archicad?

Kris
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Anonymous
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Now when I finally got around to trying to load the .aat file with attribute manager I get the attached error.
I saved one of my fills as an .att and made sure I could import back in and it did, so it must be something else.
I'm using 16full.
I did not think .aat files where version specific.
UPdated: But maybe they are?
Dave, did you save it out of 17?
Maybe I'm missing the obvious?
lec
ps, yes I unzipped it first.
David Maudlin
Rockstar
lec:

I got the same message in AC16, file opened fine in AC17. I don't know if .aat files are always version specific, but AC17 added a new attribute (Building Material) so I can see why it is version specific. If Dave Seabury has this in AC16, maybe he can upload an .aat file for that version.

Thanks to Dave Seabury for the fill.

David
David Maudlin / Architect
www.davidmaudlin.com
Digital Architecture
AC27 USA • iMac 27" 4.0GHz Quad-core i7 OSX11 | 24 gb ram • MacBook Pro M3 Pro | 36 gb ram OSX14
Barry Kelly
Moderator
Yes .aat files are version specific.
Like .pln they can be read in newer versions but not older.
Barry.
One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
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Dave Seabury
Advocate
Lec

Here is a version 15 aat file for the log pattern. Let me know if this one works for you.

David
AC 19-24 Windows 10 64 bit, Dell Prercision 7820, Xeon Silver 2414R ( 12 Cores), 64 GB Ram, Quadro RTX 4000 8GB
Anonymous
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Thanks again Dave. (and all)
Attachment might answer whether it worked or not;-)
Hope to have time soon to make black steel brackets.
We're sitting on and right next to Loma Prieta 89 epicenter.
So many brackets, so little time.

lec
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Anonymous
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Hi!

I'm somewhat late in replying here, but thought I'd let you know of ArchiFrame, an ArchiCad add on specialising in timber construction. ArchiFrame lets you create timber framing automatically, produce elevation drawings of the structures and create listings for CNC production. Modeling framing is much quicker than in ArchiCad. In ArchiFrame you first define the structure of the element (be it a wall, roof or floor) and then place the entire element at once, rather than adding each piece of the framing separately.

ArchiFrame also has some advanced tools that are very useful for production:
- Ability to create joints, grooves, markings and nailings on the elements
- Ability to give IDs to different pieces
- Ability to model boarding, cladding, different shaped beams (for example I-beams)
- Ability to model roof structures automatically, including complex ones (for example, a valley rafter is placed in the correct position automatically given the positions of ordinary roof rafters)
- Ability to create cut lists which can be fed directly to a CNC machine for a production
- Ability to create elevation drawings of the structures

Here is a link to the ArchiFrame website where you can find more info:
- http://www.archiframe.fi/en/in-brief

Let us know if you have any questions!

Best,
Heidi