Two story walls
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2004-05-01
08:58 PM
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06:05 PM
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Rubia Torres
That seems very tedious. Isn't there somewhere I can select which floors to show the walls, like some of the other tools?
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2004-05-02 12:05 AM

AC28 US/INT -> AC08
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2004-05-02 01:09 AM
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
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2004-05-02 04:23 PM
Will I see a line in the interior wall when viewed in section or an interior camera?

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2004-05-02 08:10 PM
Tom wrote:Tom, how would you build it?
Thanks. I can see where it should be a wish list item for sure. If I draw zero height walls in the middle of a tall wall, won't it screw something up?
Will I see a line in the interior wall when viewed in section or an interior camera?
The rule is VERY simple - what is to be shown on a plan, belongs to that storey. End of discussion. I had this same discussion with myself long ago, and decided to have the builder's approach to the problem. Saved me many a workaround, including zero thickness walls and so on.
Double and triple height walls should NOT be one wall. They in reality are not. They are also incorporating a tie beam at the level of the first floor (second to the US audience) as double height brick wall is rather unstable structrue. And so on.
IMHO, as always.
Stop drawing, start building.
If the above sounds condescending, I apologize - no offence meant.
ArchiCAD since 4.55 ... 1995
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2004-05-02 08:39 PM
Djordje wrote:If this is to remain the case then some other features must be added to smooth the workflow. First, windows and doors must be able to insert properly across a wall joint, whether horizontal or vertical. Next, we need some way to link connected walls, again both horizontally and vertically, and across stories so one little adjustment doesn't become an hour's worth of realignments.
Double and triple height walls should NOT be one wall.
Seems to me in many cases one big wall displayed across stories would be a lot simpler. More intelligent composite joining, especially in section and between different element types, which is sorely needed anyway, would properly display the intersections.
The think-like-a-builder approach is generally good advise but can easily lead to an overly complicated model. I mean if I took that one step further I would abandon composites all together and model each component of a building separately so I could perfectly replicate the staggering of materials at corners and joints. Two steps down the road and I realize that wood frame walls are not monolithic extruded rectangles, so I'd need to stick frame the whole building. I'm sure if I did that then I wouldn't be complaining about how intersecting walls join in plan since I'd be in complete control. Of course window casings would have to be separate from the sash and jamb since they're applied over the sheathing...
Geoff Briggs
I & I Design, Seattle, USA
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2004-05-03 11:30 AM
Geoff wrote:May I also suggest a wall that goes floorlevel to floor level (ie: forget the floor inbetween?Djordje wrote:If this is to remain the case then some other features must be added to smooth the workflow. First, windows and doors must be able to insert properly across a wall joint, whether horizontal or vertical. Next, we need some way to link connected walls, again both horizontally and vertically, and across stories so one little adjustment doesn't become an hour's worth of realignments.
Double and triple height walls should NOT be one wall.
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Another simple option if you have windows crossing the floor level is to make a single height wall then copy to the next storey and 'explode' it. Keep 'auto group' on to make reselection easier for later amendments.
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2004-05-03 11:09 PM
I too, build my model like a builder, as Djordje recommends, but why limit our options needlessly? Can we not imagine a scenario (such as ballon framing a wall) where the option would come in handy?
This has been on the wishlist forever, and I wonder if GS doesn't act on it because some influential forum members (or moderators) tell them offline that it really isn't important?

No offense meant, but perhaps instead of insisting that we get over it, GS could simply make it an option.
Thanks,
Brad O'Donnell
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2004-05-04 06:50 AM
In the case of a building with many doors and windows all of this becomes a real task and very time consuming. Changing the location or size of the doors and windows requires us to go back to the exterior fills or wall skin and match the siding to the new fenestrations. I think that there should be a easier way to make the model dynamically responsive and represent the look that we want.
A side note to all of this is a wish for the ability to set the height (or heights) where the plan view is projected.
We think the program rocks, we just want more...
Thanks,
John
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2004-05-04 03:25 PM