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Wall Graphics Displays differently in plan (model) vs. the actual "viewmap"?

rob2218
Enthusiast
I really wish I could post a picture of what I'm referring to here. Seems the ability to post images to explain the question better has been removed from this new discussion format.

My question:
The wall looks differently in "model view" than it does in THE "viewmap". What do I mean BY that (a picture is worth a thousand worDs).

What I mean by that is...when I'm working, looking at my model in plan view...the walls don't fully interset and clean up but...when I'm looking at my layout the viewmap shows the wall intersecting and cleaning up.............WHYYYYY?

Also...the Walls hatch fill pattern is interferring/reading thru the window objects no matter what "VERTICAL" cut plane height i set for the viewmap. this is just F'd up.
...Bobby Hollywood live from...
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Edgewater, FL!
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
rob2218 wrote:
I really wish I could post a picture of what I'm referring to here. Seems the ability to post images to explain the question better has been removed from this new discussion format.

Just below the 'Submit' button you will see a tab for "Upload Attachment".

rob2218 wrote:
My question:
The wall looks differently in "model view" than it does in THE "viewmap". What do I mean BY that (a picture is worth a thousand worDs).

Look at the settings in your views.
Make sure they are using the settings (layer combination, graphic overrides, pen set, floor plan cut plan height, etc.) that you are using in the Project Map.
When looking at something from the Project Map, you must manually set all of the options.
These options are saved with the views you create in the View Map - but you can edit them after the view has been saved.


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rob2218
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this is what I was referring to.
...Bobby Hollywood live from...
i>u
Edgewater, FL!
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Archicad 22, Archicad 23
Windows7 -OS, MAC Maverick OS
Barry Kelly
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I don't see anything wrong in that image.

Barry.
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rob2218
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No...sorry..the image is fine....NOW...after I discovered that there is a silly parameter called "Cleanup"? Why would even this parameter be built-into this program? I mean...ALL walls should cleanup automatically...not have a toggle that either visually displays them "AS" cleaned up or NOT cleaned up.
...Bobby Hollywood live from...
i>u
Edgewater, FL!
SOFTWARE VERSION:
Archicad 22, Archicad 23
Windows7 -OS, MAC Maverick OS
Erwin Edel
Rockstar
That toggle is to show you how the walls look without connections. It's along the same lines of showing or hiding the other things for 'on screen display': reference line, line weight, vectorial fills / pattern fill, marker range etc etc

These are just there to give insight to how the model works and is shown on paper. If you would move one of the walls to break the connection, that is what it would look like.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

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rob2218
Enthusiast
Yes...I get that those toggles how you the start and end points of the wall, beam, objects..but....they are a PITA when it comes to locating "why" walls don't cleanup right.

I spent 45m trying to figure out just "what" was causing these walls NOT to cleanup properly. Also, the walls were showing thru in the model plan view right thru the windows, meaning, the windows were hatched the same hatch pattern as the hosting wall had........which was causing me major heartburn. Wasn't until I noticed that "Cleanup Intersections" toggle that I discovered how or what it did....again...why it's there...dunno. Doesn't seem too useful. I understand that perhaps 1 or twice thru-out the projects life, a user "might" want to see how/why walls are not cleaning up or their path of travels via that indicator line/arrow....but I don't think it warrants its use. Just sayin'.
...Bobby Hollywood live from...
i>u
Edgewater, FL!
SOFTWARE VERSION:
Archicad 22, Archicad 23
Windows7 -OS, MAC Maverick OS
Erwin Edel
Rockstar
You could change your toolbar in the work environment to remove those buttons, you won't accidentally press them that way. You can still set up things through the menu View > On-Screen View Options

As far as I know there is no standard hotkey keybinding to toggle the clean up that would've caused it to be inactive.
Erwin Edel, Project Lead, Leloup Architecten
www.leloup.nl

ArchiCAD 9-26NED FULL
Windows 10 Pro
Adobe Design Premium CS5