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Unwanted Master GDL in the libraries

agroni
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Hi everyone,

 

for some years now, we have been battling some unwanted Master GLD Libraries in our Teamwork projects. I have recently found out, that other offices are facing the same occurrence.

Let me explain what is happening...

We start the project with a clean template, where only our standard libraries are available. During the project development, more or less after 1-2 moths, these libraries located in some strange folders start appearing. 

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or here

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You will probably think that is it from copying elements from other files. I can guarantee that this is not the case.

We have also tried the option of cleaning all related teamwork files. Nonetheless, the libraries appear after some weeks or months again. Because we don't receive error messages of missing libraries (after deleting them), this means that these libraries are not in use. We started to notice this problem already in Archicad 24. We are getting these master GDLs:

MASTER_GDL_ArchiCAD_Library.gdl

MASTER_GDLVelux81de_DB.gdl

ArchiCAD_Library_Master.gdl

 

Following my observations, I can conclude that the amount of those libraries might have a slight impact on performance. Still, we want to have super clean teamwork files, therefore it is bothering me a lot.

Does anyone have a similar case?

Why do they appear?

Did you manage to solve it?

 

I am very thankful for any input...

thanx

The BIMster @ AllesWirdGut
Currently: Archicad 26
User since Archicad 6.5 (2001)
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Barry Kelly
Moderator

MASTER_GDL files are a real problem as they populate your file with possibly unwanted attributes.

Ever noticed attributes in the attribute manager with names written in italic text - and you can't delete them as they simply return later?

These are from the MASTER_GDL files and will remain until you delete those files, then you can delete the attributes.

 

Even simply copying a line from one file to another will also copy across all of the MASTER_GDL file even though they are not used for that line, whether you want them or not.

Hotlinks will possibly do the same thing.

 

It has been mentioned to Graphisoft in developer forums which you may not be part of.

But as of yet there is no solution other than manually deleting these unwanted files and attributes.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
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agroni
Booster

Thanks @Barry Kelly for your fast reply.

We don't have any attributes in italic in our projects. That's a good sign, that it can be worse of what we have 🙂

 

For a really long time, we were thinking, that we had an internal bug wondering around our projects. We also had discussions with our Archicad support here in Austria, with sadly no results.

I am wondering what is keeping @GRAPHISOFT from repairing this matter??? Resources, time, importance? 

It is a bug that has been following us at least from Archicad 24.

What is the top secret forum saying? 

The BIMster @ AllesWirdGut
Currently: Archicad 26
User since Archicad 6.5 (2001)

@agroni wrote:

What is the top secret forum saying? 


No official reply or solution from Graphisoft,

But a number of top users have clearly demonstrated the problem and voiced their opinions.

So GS are aware it is an issue.

 

But bringing it up here and reporting it to your local support is good as well.

The more people that report this as a problem, the more likely it will be looked into.

 

Jared Banks (Shoegnome) has also created a blog article about it.

 

http://www.shoegnome.com/2023/08/03/archicad-tutorial-92-copy-and-paste-embedded-libraries-and-maste...

 

Barry.

 

Barry.

 

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
Dell XPS- i7-6700 @ 3.4Ghz, 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 960 (2GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

Wow, it is crazy to see that even by copying a single Hotstpot brings all that garbage into the file.

But in shoegnome's case, he was copying elements from one file to the other, which for us it is not the case. There is probably another  reason on how these master GDLs are being transported from one file to another. Slowly I am beginning to think that even if the files are in Teamwork, this "worm" gets from one file into another. 

 

It would be an honor to hear what @GRAPHISOFT has to say about this. 

We, as the biggest users and largest Archicad clients are seeking some answers for a situation that has been bothering all of us for a long time.

 

To all the Archicad Community out there, let's make out of this bug situation a big situation. Post likes or replies until someone gets a signal in Budapest.

If anyone else has a better idea... simple go ahead and speak 🙂

cheers

The BIMster @ AllesWirdGut
Currently: Archicad 26
User since Archicad 6.5 (2001)

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