Update all views

[Tom Krowka]

How does one update all the views with their appropriate saved layer states in one operation, without someone sitting at the computer opening each view.
I was under the impression that "rebuild all s/e from model" would rebuild the view using that particular view's layer state. I believe I have discovered, to my dismay, that indeed the view gets rebuilt, but with the layer state that is open on the floor plan at the time the command is executed.
I've got a bunch of views that I want to update before I publish and print. How do I do that? It takes a couple of hours to update them all.

The elevations take 10 minutes to update under the command noted above. Is that normal? Hatching (fills) are on.

[TomWaltz]

Adalbert wrote:
Thanks,

So AC10 is faster then AC9 publishing PMKs, this is a fact.

In as 9 I am on a network the plp is on the server I work from a plc and publish from it. In AC10 will be the same AC10 PLP will be on a network.

Again, you are stating that network linked views in AC10 are regenerated faster then publishing PMKs over the network from AC9. Is this what you are stating?

That's been my experience, yes, on Apple G5 Dual 2.0 GHz machines with gigabit ethernet to a Linux file server.

I would say that for each file, the live links are only perhaps 5% or 10% faster if you updated the entire project at one time. In this case, a primary improvement was projects that had 3 or 4 PLNs for varous purposes. Archicad 10 would open each one and update from it in sequence.

The biggest benefits came from the one-sie two-sie approach of updating a view here and a view there that is much more common in production. It was much faster and easier for Archicad to open the other file and update it that it was for me to manually do so, locate the correct view, and republish. I kind of developed the habit of opening both the layout file and the building file in different sessions. In that case, the update is extremely fast.

My biggest complaint was that, like AC9, you still are kind of stuck waiting while a file updates.

[Anonymous]

Tom.

Thank you for the detailed answer.

In the mean time I have remembered was was my main complain with linked filed in AC9. In order to update the linked file 1st I had to send and receive changes from the PLC to the PLT. This became annoying a clear waste of time an extra step compared to publishing PMKs. Is this the same way in AC10, you must send and receive changes before regenerating linked files.

[TomWaltz]

Adalbert wrote:
Tom.

Thank you for the detailed answer.

In the mean time I have remembered was was my main complain with linked filed in AC9. In order to update the linked file 1st I had to send and receive changes from the PLC to the PLT. This became annoying a clear waste of time an extra step compared to publishing PMKs. Is this the same way in AC10, you must send and receive changes before regenerating linked files.

If you have your PLC open at the time you are updating the Layout, the Layout "short cuts" to your PLC and would pick up your current PLC, ignoring changes other users made to the PLP.

If you do not have the PLC open in Archicad when you are updating the layouts, the layouts will look to the PLP to update.

I think that's a mixed thing, since if you do not send & receive, you could be missing the work of others on the team still working.

[Anonymous]

I my opinion this is an improvement from a time management point of view. The ideal for a small office would be to work on the same project at the same time who grabs firs an item is his. All this is possible with a firewire network.

Firewire 400 gives you 400Mbps and Firewire 800 gives you 800Mbps. Both Windows XP and Mac OS X.3+ support IP over firewire natively. You just have to add the connection yourself in windows and in OS X, it'll be under the area where you select 'built-in ethernet', 'airport', 'modem', etc. Give one an IP of 192.168.x.y and give the other an IP of 192.168.x.z and you'll be set. Use whatever filesharing method you like the most.

GS must wake up and implement a deferent way of working this as a second opinion for small offices.

[Tom Krowka]

Getting more confused by the day. Can't believe I'm having this problem. Manual rebuild causes major issues. I'm looking to rebuild all manual rebuild views to their saved layer combos at once, without opening each one separately and then hit rebuild. Very very time consuming. Then one has to update the layouts. More time sitting around watching the computer plug and chug.

it should: because you're not rebuilding views - you are rebuilding the model in the sect/elev windows. and to do that archicad uses the current layers, model view options, etc ...

Current layers meaning the floor plan current layer or the view layer combo?

if you want to automatically update your placed sect/elev views on layouts you will need to set them all to autorebuild and use the drawing manager to 'update'. archicad will then open each placed view in turn, rebuild with the correct view settings, and import the data into layout...

I've tried this with a small project, and it did not do what you are saying. It used the floor plan view setting. Try it with the roof off in floor plan view and the roof on in elevation view

if - like me - your autorebuild sect/elevs take too long to rebuild whilst working and you have them set to 'manual rebuild' you will need to either change this setting for the update

Tried this also. Changed the setting in drawing manager to auto rebuild, then updated. Still used the wrong layer combo; it was the floor plan combo.