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Complex Profile element duplicates - BUG?

__archiben
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Hi all,

 

I wanted to bump this topic: https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Project-data-BIM/Multiple-entries-for-the-same-beam-profile/td-p... but it appears locked so I can't reply over there.

 

I am having the exact same issue, (AC27 4030): essentially all of my Complex Profile elements are being scheduled twice. I am trying to create an A1-A3 carbon emissions schedule so cannot have the scheduler double-counting elements - it inflates my carbon footprint! 'Merge Items' does not work: it hides the duplicates but still schedules twice the amount that I have in reality.

 

Before you ask: I have double checked, triple checked and more: I absolutely do not have duplicate elements in the model. Interestingly, if I assign a unique ID to each element, this ID is NOT assigned to the ghost duplicate (see attached screenshot). If I use the scheduler's selection tool to select in 3D and delete ONE of the ghost elements it deletes both entries...

 

Clearly quite a critical bug and I am surprised this is still hanging around from the original post back in 2021. Any advice or input from others experiencing similar?

 

~/BF

 

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Barry Kelly
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Can you show your schedule criteria?

I am wondering if it has something to do with the beam / beam segment both being scheduled.

You really only want one or the other.

 

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Barry Kelly
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Can you show your schedule criteria?

I am wondering if it has something to do with the beam / beam segment both being scheduled.

You really only want one or the other.

 

Barry.

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Thanks - that was exactly it. I heard back from GS overnight with the same. Quick question - before I dive in to investigating myself - would this be the same for all assembly-type elements that have their own sub-elements, i.e. Stairs, Railings and Curtain Walls?

 

I don't actually understand the logic of this. I get why being able to schedule sub-elements could be important, but surely scheduling the parent element should automatically exclude its own sub-elements so as not to double count by accident? Hungarian logic?

 

Thanks again,

~/BF

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Despite it's another question which should be in different post but here is the answer for it.

 

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Graphisoft-Insights/Tip-of-the-Month-November-2023-Exclude-sub-e...

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stefan
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That tip has quite a cumbersome workaround. You can simply filter out the "Beam Segment" and "Column Segment" and similar using the Element Type as a filter in your schedule criteria.

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That is exactly what I ended up doing Stefan. I still have the 'how-can-this-possibly-be-what-I-want' reaction. It should never double count by default, only if it's told to...

 

~/BF

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