Measuring problems in Teamwork

[Bruce]

I've inherited a file from someone (externally) who has turned all the elevations & sections into drawings. Problem is they're inaccurate and I need to update them with correct window sizes etc.

However, I'm in a teamwork file and someone else is working on the plans and I'm on the elevations. How do I measure the size and location of a window if I can't use the line tool to measure with (i.e. I'm locked out of the plan space)? A measure tool would really be useful right about now.

[TomWaltz]

Bruce wrote:
What's wrong with a measuring tool? We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a measuring tool

Hypothetical: Two walls meet at an acute angle in a workspace that isn't reserved for you. How do you measure perpendicular to the wall that doesn't run in either the x or y axes? Opening the window tool to read the distance doesn't work because you're after the positioning, not the size.

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking... why would you use the Window Tool for this?

Wouldn't just rotating your working grid allow you to get distances along any angle?

[Bruce]

I get the feeling I'm just digging myself into a hole here - but I shall continue unabated

I've attached a screenshot of what I mean. And no, adjusting the coord angle has no effect if you're using the method described by Link below - well not in this example anyway.

I would use the window tool because that's what Djordje suggested below.

I didn't realise it would be that significant a problem to provide a basic, requested tool like a tape measure. It's like telling a builder he doesn't need one - just put marks on the back of your saw, or use your straight edge. Who needs a tape measure?

[Anonymous]

line tool

click on node at right

select perpendicular constraint

click on wall at left

hover over wall to get perpendicular cursor

read off 'r' value

?

bill


a dedicated measuring tool would probably work identically

[Bruce]

Yes, but the scenario is that this is not in my workspace in the Teamwork file. You can't use the line tool if the story is not in your workspace. You can't use any linear tool. Resetting the user origin doesn't help because you can't snap perpendicular without drawing something.

I'm sure someone will offer another obscure 'solution', but that misses my point entirely. Why isn't the obvious, simplest solution available?

[Link]

How about setting the skewed origin itself? You can measure as you do that. You should be able to set the skewed grid right?

Obscure enough?

Cheers,
Link.

[TomWaltz]

And no, adjusting the coord angle has no effect if you're using the method described by Link below - well not in this example anyway.

I just tried it, and it works perfectly.

Adjust your angle to match the angle of the wall you want distance perpendicular to. Place the reference point on the end of the wall, as you show in the screen shot, then hover your cursor over the other wall.

The Y value will be the perpendicular distance.

[Anonymous]

I know it's not what you want, Bruce, but even using a marquee you can read the co-ordinates. it does pick a point perpendicular to your starting point too, just not sure if it will work in Teamwork area assigned to someone else.

Cheers

[TomWaltz]

Bruce wrote:
I'm sure someone will offer another obscure 'solution', but that misses my point entirely. Why isn't the obvious, simplest solution available?

You asked a question. Link and I answered it. (though it took a few rounds to understand the problem). It's not an obvious solution. As far as I know, it's not in the manual or in any of the Help. But it works, and it's pretty simple to learn.

It works in all projects, teamworked or not, and does not require the extra "escape" at the end of an uncompleted drawing command, making it more efficient than the current process a lot of people use.

While your frustrations are understandable, they should not be directed at those of us trying to help.

[Anonymous]

i don't use teamwork

if what i described doesn't work i'd be pretty annoyed too



bill

[TomWaltz]

Djordje wrote:

Rob wrote:
well, the problem is when you want to measure a perpendicular distance to the target for example (the most common measurement that we do on plans, I recon) and you're scr..ed mate. so may be we should have some tool for measurements (??)

Any linear tool will do ... wall, beam, polyline.

Or, click on the line that represents the window width and open Object info. It will tell you the lenght.

What Window width? I'm not sure what you mean by that.